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Closest current model match to ZF Marine model IRM280PL
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6 years ago April 17, 2018 at 12:48 pm What is the closest ZF Transmission model to a 1999 ZF Marine model IRM280PL transmission? I am interested in what posted tips and suggestions would be applicable. In particular, the comments about measuring the transmission oil level. My transmission OM states to measure the transmission oil level when the engine is running and in neutral and idle speed. Once the dipstick is removed, oil spurts out aggressively from the opening. I think th…
3 RepliesApril 18, 2018 at 5:46 am Luke, ZF changed their Gear ID nomenclature about 10 years ago.. Your Model numbed is now called a ZF 280-1. There are also some physical internal & external changes, but if something did happened to yours, the change out is easy.. As to oil–A quality SAE HD 30 W meets the spec. Some 15W-40 also meet the spec. Oil level & checking–The manual is quite confusing on and if you ask an employee at ZF, you will not get a solid an…Last Post by:
posted: 6 years ago
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ZF 220A transmission pressure
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6 years ago April 5, 2018 at 3:51 pm Hello all, My transmission gage on my ZF 220A only reads when the trans is shifted into reverse. The starboard trans works in forward perfect. I don’t see another port to install the sender into. I replaced the sender thinking it may be the issue the the same problem is still occuring. Thanks Joe
2 RepliesApril 5, 2018 at 8:57 pm Have you seen the following article? ZF 220A or 220V Pressure and Temperature Sender or Switch LocationsLast Post by:
posted: 6 years ago
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Opinions on gear/engine match
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November 5, 2017 at 5:14 pm Just bought a workboat with an older JWAC 6BTA, 250. It has a velvet drive 72C gear, can I expect issues down the road and what would a Heavy Duty replacement gear option be. Presently have a drive saver in line, so there is an 1.5″ or so extra length available if needed. David
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posted: 6 years ago
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ZF 325 -1A low gear oil pressure
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January 19, 2018 at 2:28 pm Hello and thank you for any help with my problem. First post on the forum. I have a new to me 46 foot Bertram sport fish that was completely redone in 2011/12. Re-powered with QSM11 remanās with ZF 325ā1 A transmissions. These are electric shift throttles and trans run by a Gleninning system with trolling valves. Gear pressure is low on starboard trans running about 100 psi, consistent in neutral or in gear. Have not noticed a performance …
2 RepliesJanuary 26, 2018 at 3:39 am Well Iām a little embarrassed, at least I donāt have a gear problem. I discovered that this boat has two different transmission controllers. The starboard gear has a EB 30 controller, port has the EB 31 controller. The low pressure on the starboard gear led me to believe that I had a transmission problem. The EB 30 controller does not show full operating pressure until put in gear and given some rpm. The EB 31 controller shows full operatin…Last Post by:
posted: 6 years ago
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Shift delay
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6 years ago December 21, 2017 at 6:42 pm My ZF285A transmission has a shift delay programmable through the Glendinning EEC3 control with a range of 0-2.5 seconds with a default of 1.0seconds. Nothing wrong with the transmissions. Things that make me go hmmm… What is the purpose of this delay? Why would one be inclined to change from the default of 1.0seconds and whatās the reason 1.0 seconds is the default. Phil
4 RepliesJanuary 4, 2018 at 8:57 pm Just to close the thread, I spoke with Rick at Glendinning. For those that have Glendinning controls, Rick is a wealth of knowledge and a true gentleman who solved this mystery. There are two delays, both designed as preventative measures. For those that have never driven electronic shift/throttles they are silky smooth and itās easy to bump them in a moving boat. And yes there are friction adjustments for both detention and movement, but even s…Last Post by:
posted: 6 years ago
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ZF 220a Drain Plug Thread Size
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6 years ago November 22, 2017 at 4:31 pm Hello, Does anyone know what the thread size is for the oil drain plug on a ZF 220a gear box? Thanks, Pat
3 RepliesNovember 27, 2017 at 6:32 am Pat, Regarding the 220A, check out this topic .. Removing the Magnet / Screen HexLast Post by:
posted: 6 years ago
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Rebuild or Conversion
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6 years ago April 16, 2017 at 5:44 pm I have a failed MG-5075SC behind a 6BTA. Ā Considering a rebuild of the existing unit, however am also considering a conversion to a comparable ZF. Ā Any insights or recommendations? Ā Unit drives a Doen 105 jet and is 1:1 ratio. Ā One item that is driving the conversion question is the apparent damage to the Twin Disc – lots of metal in the oil and strainer following a low oil condition due to seal failure – may or may not be rebuilda…
7 RepliesOctober 21, 2017 at 4:40 pm You don’t screw around.. You needed to get it done and you did.. Good for you.. Not that it matters now, but for the 5075 to fail at such early hours and then looking at the pics says volumes–The gear was installed with some type of interference on the input applying thrust pressure on the gears input shaft–Not a fault of the gear–A Lousy mechanic put it together.. Anyway, seems all is good now.. TonyLast Post by:
posted: 6 years ago
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Transmission chatter at idle
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6 years ago October 10, 2017 at 2:47 pm I have boat with two Iveco AiIfo Turbo Diesel engines 8061SRM30.10 and ZF IRM220A transmissions. Starboard engine and transmission run smooth, coupling between engine and transmission is Vulkan Torfles KT3. Poert size features Vulkan coupling that is actually just rubber disc between two mating parts. This engine and transmission chatters at idle. I asked every one, ZF, Iveco, marine places and no one knew why chatter occurs. I increased idle, c…
1 ReplyOctober 12, 2017 at 5:46 pm Cool looking boat. Custom? Aluminum?Last Post by:
posted: 6 years ago
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Twin Disk 5050SC temp and pressure senders
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6 years ago October 6, 2017 at 8:39 am My boat has a Twin Disk transmission 5050SC connected to a Cummins 6BTA 5.9 370HP engine. The instruments harness has wires for a transmission pressure and temperature senders but the senders were never installed. Does anyone know what temperature and pressure sensors should be installed and where they are connected to the transmission? The information will be connected to a NEMA2000 analog to digital converter for display on a multifunction dis…
1 ReplyOctober 6, 2017 at 5:11 pm Walter, You will not like the answer I am going to offer you.. I have nothing in my data base to refer to on that Twin Disc Model.. As to Twin Disc support–What you have found out is why I try and stay away.. Very poor support overall… I wish I had a better answer.. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Just took a chance with GOOGLE.. I found this bulletin…. This is a Gear that will have full Gear pressure on the oil line going to &a…Last Post by:
posted: 6 years ago
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oil change for zf-85-iv 2.0
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6 years ago September 29, 2017 at 12:34 pm have dual 2007 zf-85-iv-2.0 ( with dual qsb 5.9 425) just got the baot this year in jan so im preparing for winter layup and want to change oil on the zf … can someone tell me the type of oil and how much i need to get i have a reverso system so i figure pull out old with reverso and put in right in tranny …. sound good? thanks guys
12 RepliesOctober 6, 2017 at 8:04 am One other thing. I think that fresh ATF helps keep the seals in good condition. Another reason too change once a year. Bill F.Last Post by:
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Transmission removal and replacement.
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6 years ago August 24, 2017 at 5:24 am Hi all, The transmission went on the port engine of my 31′ Bertram, roughly 6 weeks ago and I have been unable to find anybody even interested in replacing it. The engine is a Cummins 4BTA (serial number 46043905), and the best I can tell the transmission is a Twin-Disc 5011A / 1.44:1. I am getting the transmission information from the starboard engine because the data plate on the port engine is missing. (see attached pictures). Also I am…
5 RepliesAugust 30, 2017 at 11:05 am First of all I would like to thank both of you for answering my question. Bill—-> That is a lot of good information, thank you! Now for the odd but good news: I went into the local Marine store here in Cape May to buy some penetrating oil, and ran into an old timer who asked me what I was using it for. I explained what had happened, and he said, “take off the mushroom cap and then try it”. Further he said it sounds like the …Last Post by:
posted: 6 years ago
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Vulcan coupling life
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6 years ago August 26, 2017 at 10:30 pm Hi All, I just left a vessel that has developed a gear oil leak on the main input shaft as it is dripping out the drain on the flywheel housing. It is MG 5114a with 100 hours from rebuild, the gear box has other issues . I don’t trust it and it think it needs to come out fp. All that being said they are still working the vessel 12 hours a day and have a 750nm steam back in 2 weeks. With all the oil on the silicone vulcan coupling how lon…
2 RepliesAugust 29, 2017 at 3:56 pm Thanks Tony.Last Post by:
posted: 6 years ago
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ZF63A gear fluid change, stay with ATF or switch to 15-40 oil ?
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6 years ago August 15, 2017 at 7:09 am Hello All, I’m about to do a fluid/filter change on the ZF63A gear coupled to the 6BTA 370 in my lobster boat. There’s been lots of discussion on other forums on whether to run ATF in the 63A gear as listed by ZF……..or…..switch to 15-40 oil that is also approved by ZF in the 63A gear. The change from ATF to 15w-40w oil supposedly “quiets” the gear rattle and shift banging. Anyone have any thoughts or opi…
4 RepliesAugust 19, 2017 at 6:29 pm Just within the last 6 months, “100% hands-on” direct experience with a ZF85IV that runs on the edge as to “duty cycle” and power input in commercial service (1500+ hrs per year) has shown superior shifting qualities and measurably lower oil temps (a solid 20 F drop) …………… We just installed his 3rd gear at 6000 hours and we hope to get an extra 1500+ out of this one running 15W-40R…Last Post by:
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ZF 220A inspection
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6 years ago July 23, 2017 at 7:51 am I have a ZF gear on my 6bta 370 with about 3500 hours. I am not having any problems other than gear whine that has been there since I got the boat (1,000 hrs). I cannot afford mid season breakdowns and I am curious if it would be good to remove the transmission and have it inspected during my off season.
7 RepliesAugust 18, 2017 at 5:37 pm That’s a Tony question ?Last Post by:
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ZF 310 oil change interval?
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6 years ago July 24, 2017 at 1:03 pm I’m at 300 hours on my engine and transmission this year, on my way to 5-600 hours. What’s the frequency of change on the 310? Not having luck with ZF manuals on line.
3 RepliesJuly 25, 2017 at 7:48 pm All the same….The 311 is also an older “no more made” but good ol’ ZF gear.. TonyLast Post by:
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ZF 220A Hard To Shift Out Of Forward
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6 years ago June 29, 2017 at 5:57 pm At idle speed, I can shift easily between forward, reverse and neutral. After taking the boat out and running, my port transmission requires a fair amount of force to move from forward to neutral. After the initial popping feel when enough force is applied, the shifter moves easily into neutral. Once in neutral at idle speed, the transmission once again moves easily in and out of all positions. The oil level is good and the oil looks clear …
1 ReplyJune 30, 2017 at 5:17 am Have you disconnected the cable at the tranny and verified it is not a lever/cable issue? Once confirmed it is not a lever/cable issue investigate the shift valve for marine age. Post some pictures of your engines/gear and specific pics of your gear shift lever. Here’s a link with info and pictorial: ZF220A & ZF220V Shift Valve Lever Repair KitLast Post by:
posted: 6 years ago
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Twin disc 5061A mount to 6bt
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June 25, 2017 at 9:46 pm I have been reading over this website for a very long time now. I bought a ’76 25′ inboard Sea Vee and decided to do a ground up restoration with a cummins diesel based on the information avail on this website. With my lack of knowledge, the process has been slow but I would like to do it right the first time around. I am now in the stages of getting to the engine bed and gear mounting positions. There is very limited information on…
5 RepliesJune 27, 2017 at 9:15 pm I appreciate passing on the knowledge and the attachments!Last Post by:
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gear dragging in nuetral
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6 years ago January 18, 2017 at 11:48 am i have a twindisc 507, just rebuilt. it has a troll valve on it. it drags in nuetral before the rebuild and still does now, you can stop it by holding the shaft by hand, what could cause this?
17 RepliesJune 20, 2017 at 7:58 pm You are right–It neither feels, or even acts, like regular oil….That’s the whole idea…………………………….. Glad it helped.. TonyLast Post by:
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gear oil pressure
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6 years ago June 20, 2017 at 2:56 pm what is the proper oil pressure for MG-507 , idle in nuetral, can’t find it in the manual also, where is the location for gear oil temperature for the same gear
1 ReplyJune 20, 2017 at 7:50 pm Idle /neutral/warm to operating temp is at least 75 PSI.. Once in gear, above 300 PSI.. TonyLast Post by:
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Chatter
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6 years ago June 11, 2017 at 2:30 pm ZF 220. Developing a chatter noise in neutral and idle forward. It does not do it in reverse. No loss of performance, and it does not appear to be slipping.
2 RepliesJune 11, 2017 at 7:20 pm I have not noticed any other sounds at shutdown or otherwise. Both my engines seem to idle low (sub 550ish per tach, with the port engine being lower thab stbd. I usually bump them to 650 to 700 for my idle speed through the canal. At 660 to 700, the chatter is not existent. I will get in there and get pics the best i can. No dust or anything that i noticed.Last Post by:
posted: 6 years ago
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Closest current model match to ZF Marine model IRM280PL
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