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    • Jersey Dawn Repower

      This topic has 6 replies, has 3 voices, and was last updated by RicM 1 week ago

      February 14, 2018 at 12:33 pm The boat in question is a 36 or 42 jersey dawn. Most 36s come with 3208 cats at 320hp and most 42s have 6-71s TIB 485s. From my research they are 18/19knt boats. My question is it is even possible to get these boats to that 27/28knt cruise with the newer technology? I am also aware that some of the older hulls don’t perform well at higher speeds so any information there would be appreciated as well. Ultimately, I don’t think I would …

      Started by:  Martin Padgett

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      Reply #6 February 16, 2018 at 3:53 pm Did something like this conversation occur over on a while ago? In any case, if that’s the boat you want, and those are the engines you want, go for it. Life is too short to own an ugly boat, or is it Life is too ugly to own a short boat? Something like that, in any case, keep us informed about your quest. I for one would very much like to hear more about this project. Believe me, I spent many hours pondering the same questi…

      Last Post by:  RicM posted: 1 week ago

    • 1997 Bertram 36 Repower

      This topic has 12 replies, has 7 voices, and was last updated by Tony Athens 1 month ago

      December 27, 2017 at 3:03 pm We are considering a purchase of a 1997 Bertram 36 with Cummins 450 Diamond engines. Approximately 1800 hours. Engines appear to be in good shape (sea trial and inspection pending), but the current owner has told us its not very fuel efficient above 1800 RPMs. Displacement is 30,000 lbs dry. Owner says at 1850 RPMs it is 17 knots and ~24 GPH, which seems a bit higher than the published power curves for the 450C Fuel efficiency, no smoke/fume…

      Started by:  Tim Flynn

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      Reply #12 January 3, 2018 at 7:27 pm Nick (?), Your reply is perfect for an comparison, but like I learned very well over the last 30 years ago, that there are no two boats are the same, and most times, not even close when you start talking max RPM’s , vessel speed at cruise RPM’s, etc etc…….. But regardless, your input for perspective purposes is extremely helpful.. At this point our poster, Tim, needs to come to grips that the 6CTA 8.3 450 Diamonds …

      Last Post by:  Tony Athens posted: 1 month ago

    • 3.9 stern drive repower?

      This topic has 2 replies, has 2 voices, and was last updated by Paul Harper 1 month ago

      December 28, 2017 at 11:51 am We inherited a 2958 Bayliner last year with twin 350’s & omc Cobra’s. After throwing some time into it, we have decided it needs repowered with engines & drives. The beam is 10.5 making the 350’s very difficult to work on. I work in heavy equipment repair & hate spark plugs. My neighbor at the marina has a 2001 sea sport with twin 3.9’s and Volvo drives, was wondering if this is a option? Thanks for any advic…

      Started by:  Paul Harper

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      Reply #2 December 29, 2017 at 6:08 pm Thanks Tony, we will probably fix what’s in it and use the boat for awhile till something pops up that has a good diesel package. Alot of nice boats out there with really outdated engines installed, hopefully that changes in the next few years. Paul. 1989 Bayliner 2958 Avanti.

      Last Post by:  Paul Harper posted: 1 month ago

    • Repowering a Baja

      This topic has 1 reply, has 2 voices, and was last updated by Tony Athens 3 months ago

      October 12, 2017 at 6:34 am Let me preface this by saying I have not purchased any boat to do this in yet, this is just a really wild idea in my mind that I really want to make happen, and would like some input as to what your thoughts or concerns would be. I am looking at getting a 26-30 foot Baja Sport powerboat if you will, going to get one with a 454 BBC or bigger in it with a Bravo drive to it at minimum. Now I have always been a diesel guy and would love to do a dro…

      Started by:  Bryan Pence

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      Reply #1 November 16, 2017 at 9:59 pm I guess this is another one that got missed.. Sorry.. Before I get into the “has anyone done this” , (I have) let me ask you this……………..Do you have a general “budget” for such a project and do you have a general sketch or some pictures of what you have now vs, what you want to end up with.. That would make it a lot easier to comment effectively.. Tony Tony Athens Seaboard Founder Go here fo…

      Last Post by:  Tony Athens posted: 3 months ago

    • CAT 3126 420 to Cummins 6CTA 430

      This topic has 6 replies, has 3 voices, and was last updated by Tony Athens 3 months ago

      October 25, 2017 at 8:26 am Posting this for a guy on down east boat forum. I’ve asked him to join……”hell it’s free” !!!!! “hey bill I know your a cummins guy and are very knowledgeable in this are I’m thinking for down the road I have a cat 3126B 420hp now with a td2.5:1 gear if I put in a recon 6cta 430hp could I use the same gear the cat turns 2800 wot the cummins 2600 wot” The boat is a beautiful 36 H&H down east lo…

      Started by:  Bill Desmarais

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      Reply #6 October 29, 2017 at 12:49 pm Propped right, the 6CTA 8.3 will turn at least 2750 and can run all day at 2400 RPM.. If you are working the motor super easy, just add 1-2″ of pitch to get the R’s down to 2200 or so to get your happy vessel speed. Don’t confuse MINIMUM rated RPM or test cell data with how this engine really likes to be propped in the field under real ocean/working conditions. . Tony Tony Athens Seaboard Founder Go here for the latest stuf…

      Last Post by:  Tony Athens posted: 3 months ago

    • Jersey Sportfish Repower

      This topic has 8 replies, has 5 voices, and was last updated by leonaj99 4 months ago

      October 9, 2017 at 6:38 pm The boat is a 42′ 1993 Jersey Dawn III sport fish. The engines are 6-71 TIB’s, 485HP, that have about 1000 hours on them since full rebuilds. They run fine, but they are noisy, dirty, and smelly. It’s a great boat, and my wife and I both love the interior layout and it’s livability. We are now retired and are contemplating the options of running this boat back and forth from RI to FL vs staging it down there and buying …

      Started by:  RicM

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      Reply #8 October 22, 2017 at 8:16 am Rick good luck in your repower and in making the tough decisions. I just want to emphasize Tony’s comments regarding sub system upgrades/improvements. Having done a single engine repower myself in the past and having done most of it myself I found an awful lot to do as soon as the old engine was out. Old thru hulls? Now I have good access so time to install new ones. Old water system plumbing? Gone and a new system installed with proper a…

      Last Post by:  leonaj99 posted: 4 months ago

    • Repower Options ?

      This topic has 6 replies, has 3 voices, and was last updated by Bill Desmarais 5 months ago

      September 1, 2017 at 7:09 am I’m posting this question for a boat owner friend who has a 32 H&H (Osmond Beal down east) lobster boat. Right now the boat is powered by a 1999 Isuzu 6 cyl. Model A-6BG1T 230 hp rated @ 2500 rpms. The engine is keel cooled with dry stack exhaust. Tranny is a ZF63A 2:1 gear, 1.5” shaft with 24X22 #3 cup prop. Weight is a guess @ 12,000 lbs +-. Owner stated the boat is “heavy” for the sea trial. I sea trialed the boat this past week …

      Started by:  Bill Desmarais

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      Reply #6 September 3, 2017 at 8:07 am Rob, I’m confident the repower of this older 32 H&H will be no more than a ReCon engine. 25 Terry Jason down east, 370 6BTA 28 Henriques Sport Fish, twin Volvo 200 41 PA s

      Last Post by:  Bill Desmarais posted: 5 months ago

    • QSC propping to engine load

      This topic has 2 replies, has 2 voices, and was last updated by Luke Nelson 8 months ago

      June 14, 2017 at 6:03 pm Hi Guys, I am after some input on engine load to propping. I have just swapped out a pair of 3208’s to qsc 540’s. I think I may be close but everyone wants more speed if they can have it. The props were calculated on the 490 hp curve to keep within the shaft limits for survey( I am using marinex hs22 2.25). I can post the full numbers but at 2400rpm I get 19.5 knots @ 120 LPH and 52% load. At 2600 I get 22 knots and 74%. The engine …

      Started by:  Luke Nelson

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      Reply #2 June 25, 2017 at 2:56 am Thanks Tony, It makes sense when you say it like that. The sea water sides are on my list to strip and clean. thanks Luke Attachments:You must be logged in to access attached files.

      Last Post by:  Luke Nelson posted: 8 months ago

    • Repower 34' Libby with Cummins QSB 5.9 480

      This topic has 2 replies, has 2 voices, and was last updated by John Albaum 8 months ago

      June 14, 2017 at 9:14 am I’m looking to repower my 34′ lobster boat(Libby 34×13). I have a Deere 6068SFM50 rated at 265hp with a ZF280 at 2:1 to a 2″ shaft spinning a 24×25 wheel at the moment. The engine I’m looking at is a very low hour QSB 5.9 at 480hp. I know the engine will fit and my gear and shaft will handle the horsepower. My questions revolve around the exhaust and the power steering pump that is already on the engine. Th…

      Started by:  John Albaum

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      Reply #2 June 14, 2017 at 10:08 pm Thanks for the reply. With the Deere I can make a little over 19kts at WOT and about 13.5gph, and that’s right were I would like to cruise, so I feel like that wouldn’t be too hard for the 480 to do. I’ve read they can cruise comfortably at 17ish gph. I’d be doing 300-400 hrs per year so not too much. I’ve attached a picture of the engine with the power steering pump attached. I don’t know if this is a Cu…

      Last Post by:  John Albaum posted: 8 months ago

    • Prop Sizing Question

      This topic has 1 reply, has 2 voices, and was last updated by Tony Athens 8 months ago

      May 31, 2017 at 8:56 am Prop sizing. question. These are 6BTA- 300 in a 34′ Hatteras Convertible. 12.5 beam – 26000 lbs loaded (No Trim tabs) ZF220A 1:5-1 gears. 3100 rpm NO LOAD – Current props: 4Blade Nibral – 20 X 19.5 X 1.5 WOT= 2675 RPM – NO BLACK SMOKE UNTIL IT GETS JUST OVER THE 2600 MARK, 2675 WAS ALL SHE HAD TO GIVE. Looking to get 2950rpm. NOTE**Started with props 20 X 21 X1.5 that gave me a WOT of 2600 RPM. The 20 X21 set up…

      Started by:  paul j

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      Reply #1 June 2, 2017 at 7:24 am Paul, These are early 300B’s and they like to spin up easy to well OVER 2900 RPM when your vessel is loaded up as you use it–Typically I say “loaded for bear”…. Basically, you cannot under prop this engine as long as you are happy with the vessel speed at cruise RPM’s in the 2300-2500 RPM range.. Tell your prop guy this—————-Reduce my pitch/diameter/Cup or ??, until the engine …

      Last Post by:  Tony Athens posted: 8 months ago

    • Cutlass bearing

      This topic has 1 reply, has 2 voices, and was last updated by Tony Athens 9 months ago

      April 30, 2017 at 4:11 pm just hat my shaft shortened because when I repowered I had to slide the engine back I needed to replace cutlass so everything was out good time to do it now it’s all back together my question is new cutlass bearing should I be able to lift on the shaft and get any movement 

      Started by:  Derek chandler

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      Reply #1 May 9, 2017 at 8:00 pm All cutless type bearings are “sloppy” as to a shaft fit ,  Maybe a  new 1.5″ cutless is .010-015″ over… If the Bearing is in perfect alignment with the shaft going thru it, yes you can always feel some lift.. As that alignment gets skewed, than is gets less and less.. Another issue is the ID of the strut as to concentricity–Many struts have out of round bores and will crush the bearing as it’s pressed…

      Last Post by:  Tony Athens posted: 9 months ago

    • QSC 540 or C9 565

      This topic has 8 replies, has 3 voices, and was last updated by Bryan 1 year ago

      December 2, 2016 at 4:29 pm So what would be peoples thoughts?  The QSC’s have 4000 hours and the C9’s have 2000 hours. It would be  prop application for around 700 hours a year, both would be propped down to 500hp  and driven for the best part at around 1800  rpm. Discounting the general condition  of the engines would one be seen as the better choice? I had a water ingress incident and have 2 wet 3208’s and it seems the right time to upgrade. I und…

      Started by:  Luke Nelson

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      Reply #8 January 12, 2017 at 5:22 pm <p>Well the early pumps had issues that was recognized by caterpillar in a service letter. I’ve seen heui pumps last for upwards of 6000 hours and others 1500 hours was all the time they lasted this is where strict oil changes and regular maintenance ( anodes etc.) come into play, most times the pump can not make full pressure and the engine runs poorly at higher rpm. The downfall is when the pump fails and contaminates the oil rail …

      Last Post by:  Bryan posted: 1 year ago

    • Repower after swamping

      This topic has 12 replies, has 3 voices, and was last updated by Tony Athens 1 year ago

      November 26, 2016 at 3:03 am Looks like I get to kick off this subject, but before I do, Happy Thanksgiving! Back in June, right before our salmon season was to begin, my boat swamped at the dock.  Long story, but suffice to say it was a disaster.   The boat has been in my family since it was new in 1990.  She was, up until June, powered by twin 6125A Luggers, rated 460 hp @2300 with 2:1 ZF 320A gears.  Anyone familiar with the engines, knows this is actually a ligh…

      Started by:  James Burton

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      Reply #12 November 28, 2016 at 9:36 pm Sorry for the delay getting back, but I had a busy weekend . Controls & MGX Gears—I can see you are way ahead of me and have done your home work.. Very good.. As to electronic controls and the MGX gear—It all comes down to solid support when you need it most—In S. Calif, there is basically only one guy that knows those controls back to front. Yes, as electronic controls go, the EC300 are at the TOP, but at least with GD or ZF, you have…

      Last Post by:  Tony Athens posted: 1 year ago

    • Repowering a 36 Northern Bay with a QSM 11/670

      This topic has 1 reply, has 2 voices, and was last updated by Jerry Farnham 1 year ago

      November 27, 2016 at 4:57 am As started elsewhere this is the summary of a repower of my 36′ Northern Bay Downeast boat from a damaged QSM 11/670 to a reman QSM/670 .   What seemed to at first be a simple plug and play turned into a seemingly endless series of one by one steps.  What was expected to be a 2 week out and in process turned into an almost 2 month affair.   Basics – Skipjack is a 36′ Northern Bay – classic Maine downeast hull.  Fu…

      Started by:  Larry Backman

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      Reply #1 November 27, 2016 at 12:37 pm What/where is the old QSM11? Looks good. The yard should have caught the difference in couplings.

      Last Post by:  Jerry Farnham posted: 1 year ago

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