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Sim no J39 data
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4 years ago July 22, 2017 at 5:10 pm Cummins had to replace my QSB 5.9 engine and put a Recon in it this last week. All seems to be fine. They very nicely gave me a version 3 VesselView as I didn’t have one in the boat. We connected it for the sea trial and it all worked fine yesterday. Today, shortly after starting the engine I got the “sim no J39 data” error. When this occurs, don’t get any rpm reading, either on the VesselView or the original tachome…
18 RepliesMay 15, 2019 at 5:42 pm I had this message on one engine yesterday after a complete battery change Was a blown fuse on the ECM. My engines are near new version 1 reco QSB5.9 380hp. It turns out there are 4 fuses on each engine, one more than the Cummins guy was expecting. Iām told his attendance and troubleshooting is not under warranty.Last Post by:
posted: 4 years ago
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Warning Troll
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4 years ago April 30, 2019 at 12:43 pm I recently installed a wet qsm11 which came with a smartcraft vesselview 4. Right off the bat is has a “warning troll” on the display that cannot be cleared. After talking to Mercury tech support they started it is a compatibility issue with Cummins and cannot be removed. Anyone else run into this issue?
1 ReplyApril 30, 2019 at 6:36 pm You will not like my answer————–SmartCraft, AKA something I cannot put is print anymore, has no place on a Cummins engine. Why?–Simple……… There are no answers for the glitches, and a minimum of support from the Cummins distributor that profited from the sale of the engine…A sad situation that Cummins needs to address. As to alternatives—-Plenty of 100% rock solid options based …Last Post by:
posted: 4 years ago
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Is an EGT alarm a better overheat indicator than coolent temp.
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5 years ago January 28, 2018 at 5:10 pm Iām considering installing EGT gauges with alarms to augment my coolent temp gauges/alarms. Iām thinking this is an overall better heads up that things are heating up. Iāve read that if you lost all coolant (blown hose) you may not get an alarm due to sensors no longer submerged in coolant. Am I thinking corectly? Is it worth installing these? Any strong opinions? Thanks! Joe
14 RepliesApril 13, 2019 at 10:23 am IMO, in a Marine application using Cummins mid-range engines ( and probably most others) , the most import alarms you have can would be redundant coolant temp ( a tad below 200F) and seawater flow. How you do that is totally up to you but this site shows may options/pics.. Tony..Last Post by:
posted: 5 years ago
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Silent Aqualarm – best way to diagnose?
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April 7, 2019 at 9:15 am I have a 6 year old Aquaalarm connected to a water flow sensor as well as a raw water temp sensor. Itās not sounding this year when the keyswitch is turned as has always been the case, A quick look at wires, sensors, connections, etc. didnāt show anything obviously wrong. We splashed on Thursday, I wasnāt really paying attention when I started the engine but I thought I heard a weak alarm and then nothing. In 4 starts since, no alarm…. …
2 RepliesApril 7, 2019 at 2:06 pm He who wired it ( who wasnāt me!) ran a red wire from the flow sensor to the alarm, a purple wire from the temp sensor to the alarm and powered the two sensors with a black wire tapped off the ignition, fused in the middle of no where and then split to a pair of black wires running to either sensor. The fuse was salt/moisture corroded… Fun afternoon for a 1$ part!Last Post by:
posted: 5 years ago
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Smartcraft fuel level input high
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5 years ago April 1, 2019 at 2:57 pm I have twin QSB 5.9 diesels in my 42 powerboat. Iām currently cruising the Bahamas. Two days ago, an hour into a two hr run at 1800 rpm, I got a Smartcraft alarm on my port engine, āFuel Level Input Highā. See pic. This alarm only showed on the gauge on the left side of the helm. I have two Smartcraft gauges. The gauge on the right side showed a green āOKā symbol. I acknowledged the alarm and continued cruising keeping an eye on things. Aft…
4 RepliesApril 4, 2019 at 6:36 am If that is the case then indeed you are more than likely dealing with a “smartCraft Gremlin”… Perform a factory reset on that specific display and re-configure it correctly as “Diesel Inboard NO TROLL” and go from there… Assuming fuel level readings are coming up on the screen and are rather accurate?Last Post by:
posted: 5 years ago
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Dieselview only showing Port data – both smartcra
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5 years ago February 25, 2019 at 12:29 pm Recently purchased a 2007 40 Sea Ray with Twin QSB 5.9. The Dieselview screen is actually in good shape however it only shows data from the port engine (engine & fuel). All dash gauges work for both engines. I tried cleaning the terminals for the starboard engine where it plugs into the dieselview but no change. I’ve been reading through the forums and from what I gather if this was a problem with the connection at the engine my dash …
3 RepliesMarch 11, 2019 at 3:12 pm I do not think it’s a problem with the display unit but the only way to tell is to have another unit to swap with. You may try swapping the SIM modules on the engines to see if you can get the issue to switch sides? Also check that the MUS ID jumpers are set correctly… there’s an article on our website on how to do this. Welcome to the SmartCraft world…Last Post by:
posted: 5 years ago
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Swapping Diesel View for Vessel View
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5 years ago March 8, 2019 at 3:30 pm I have a 2007 Cummins QSL9 with a SmartCraft DieselView display. I would like to replace it with a slightly newer vessel view display. Is this an easily doable thing? Would it matter what the vessel view screen came off of?
4 RepliesMarch 11, 2019 at 1:02 pm I am sure swapping the smart craft system for the newer types is the best possible option. That said all I wanted to do was have a display I could see more clearly from a bit of a distance away, looking threw the window into my wheel house while hauling lobster traps. My motor is a 2007, right around when they swapped from diesel view to vessel view so I took a gamble that vessel view would work and it seems it did. Thanks everyone for the help…Last Post by:
posted: 5 years ago
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Smart Craft 2007
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February 13, 2019 at 3:50 pm I have two Cummins engines 5.9 of 2007 with a SmrtCraft each. I should reprogram the SmartCraft of the right engine as it also displays data from the left engine. How can I proceed since this type of programming can not be accessed from the normal menu? Thank you
7 RepliesFebruary 21, 2019 at 3:50 pm My dieselview is on a 2005 QSC 8.3 -540HO SN 46406617 I am assuming it is the smartcraft 2.2 version based on the response from Cummins and Mercury I have a little burn mark on the right side of the display and in full light display can be difficult to read. Do you know if there is a wiring diagram for this display particularly for the data inputs to the display? What is the language used for the data is it all nmea 183? Thanks for any i…Last Post by:
posted: 5 years ago
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Tach issue
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5 years ago February 20, 2019 at 3:47 pm 6BTA 315 Nippon Denso with VDO Tiara supplied gauges in a 1995 Tiara. One tach doesnāt work at all until engine revved above 2000rpm. Works fine at low rpm after being revved up. Swapped tachs around to confirm the issue isnāt in the tach itself. Swapped bell housing senders between engines with no change and triple checked that sender depth is correct/ as close to ring gear as possible. Checked induced AC voltage OK at sender. Same on both side…
2 RepliesFebruary 21, 2019 at 8:51 am You’ve been diligent and thorough. Maybe it’s time to run a dedicated feeds from the sensor to the tach and 12V too. You can loose run it all for testing purposes.Last Post by:
posted: 5 years ago
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Cummins Onan temp switch
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5 years ago February 20, 2019 at 5:28 am Hi Guys, Does anyone know the temperature the attached temp switch activates at? It it sitting on the exhaust mixer.Basically the engine has done 2 impellers in a month and not shut down. The shut down circuit is working and tested, I am not sure on the temp switch. I could have been that it was seen with no water just in time both times. The engine has not visibly overheated. Short of just replacing what else can be done? It does not seem to …
5 RepliesFebruary 21, 2019 at 7:57 am The ones we use are normally open (when holding it in your hand) and they close on rise to complete the simple alarm circuit. Yours could be normally open (N.O.) or normally closed (N.C.) (and open on rise) depending on the type of circuit. Figure that out for testing the system. You tested the switch per Justin’s instructions, now take it a step further and re-install the switch and test the system. If it’s N.O. you jump the lea…Last Post by:
posted: 5 years ago
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Will VesselView 403 work with Cummins QSB5.9?
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5 years ago February 19, 2019 at 1:12 pm I have twin QSB 5.9’s 380HP (From 2005). SIM module is revision 5. 1. Will the VesselView 403 work with this configuration? 2. Will the 403 show engine fault codes/messages? thanks!
1 ReplyFebruary 20, 2019 at 10:42 am Dave Thomson wrote: I have twin QSB 5.9ās 380HP (From 2005). SIM module is revision 5. 1. Will the VesselView 403 work with this configuration? 2. Will the 403 show engine fault codes/messages? thanks! YES to ALLLast Post by:
posted: 5 years ago
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Converting 6B5.9M from 12 to 24 volts
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December 18, 2018 at 3:40 am My 6B5.9M was manufactured in 1994 but installed new in 2004 in my sailboat. I’m now converting my electrical system to 24volts and was originally planning to just swap out the alternator and leave the rest of the relatively simple engine electrical systems at 12V. However, as it turns out only a few electronics items need 12V and a simple DCDC converter can handle them nicely. In many ways it would be simpler to convert all to 24V, but h…
11 RepliesFebruary 19, 2019 at 2:05 am I am still battling with a dual voltage system and have not decided where I land. My latest thought is this. What about using a 24V alternator and starter motor with but keep the 12V panel and starter solenoid? I already must provide low current 12v loads for NMEA2000 and etc. It is then easy to power the panel with that system. This means I can have a 24V start and house batteries and this greatly simplifies charging and redundancy, etc. The 12…Last Post by:
posted: 5 years ago
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Murphy Gauge on 6BTA
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November 30, 2018 at 4:49 pm Anybody have pics of these installed on a 6bta? I seen the 6cta (I think) on this site but it looks like the tank might be bigger. I’d like to put them on the sides just like that though. How’s installation? I need to put fitting in the bottom the the tank and then the top one can go over to the starboard side of the tank where all of the plugs are?
4 RepliesFebruary 4, 2019 at 4:01 pm I managed to find a post showing exactly what I need to do.Last Post by:
posted: 5 years ago
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Smart craft gear box pressure alarm
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5 years ago February 3, 2019 at 3:33 pm Hi All, Does smart craft v1 have a gear box pressure alarm or just the pressure reading? Basically I blew a shaft seal on a PTO pump on a ZF 286a, that pumped the gear oil into the steering and fried the clutches. The gear locked in Fwd, not Rev like the selector was… so it shot ahead when berthing and made a crunching on someone else’s marlin board.. We are looking at a way to not have to happen again. It is running a Metaris V…
2 RepliesFebruary 4, 2019 at 3:04 am Thanks Tony, I got the report on the GB today and it cooked the secondary clutch. Parts are on the way as the gear was only 800 hrs old. Electronic shift block is getting a strip and clean before going on the spare box. I ran the engine the next day( mainly to pump oil around the GB and shaft seals). The oil levels were fine with no oil loss. I would have about 7 bar engaged pressure fwd or astern and 24 bar in neutral. I cant really explain …Last Post by:
posted: 5 years ago
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Aetna Tachometers and VHF Noise
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5 years ago October 1, 2018 at 4:46 pm I recently installed a pair of Aetna Tachometers, model 8905R-P-DS LCD in the tower of my boat. I used Belden, twisted pair, shielded 16 guage wire for the signal wire. The tachometers work great and are very accurate. I have power supply running from 12V power panel in the tower with toggle switches and fuses, so I can turn them on and off. They are not wired to the ignition switch. The problem is I’m getting a lot of noise on my VHF radi…
10 RepliesJanuary 7, 2019 at 8:30 pm Rob: Thanks for the info and the diagram. Now only have to decide whether I need the shielded cable. As for the LED, thanks, yes on the fly bridge it will have to be LCD for sure as I only operate in the day light. I am also looking at installing the ISSPRO R609 Turbocators on the fly bridge. As an old gas man my diesel learning curve is steep and question keep arising. My next issue will be bleeding especially when I am changing fuel fi…Last Post by:
posted: 5 years ago
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Alarm panels waterproof?
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5 years ago November 23, 2018 at 3:30 pm I had a couple of Borel (I think) alarm panels in my boat. I’m looking for a more waterproof solution if possible and was wondering if the ones on this site are?
4 RepliesNovember 27, 2018 at 5:00 pm Most of the panels we sell have the sensitive electronics on the rear of the panels “gooped” with electrical grade doping compound so they are not exposed. The panels seem to hold up very well to the elements…Last Post by:
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Troll & Cruise modes Vessel View 4
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5 years ago November 26, 2018 at 4:42 am Hi all, I have a pair of recently installed QSB5.9 380hp with Vessel View 4ās. Troll mode has been displayed in yellow with (apparently no operational effect ) since installation. When I try to disable it, the disable button is greyed out. When the engines were commissioned, the Cummins Tech noticed this, but brushed it off. I would like to know if this feature (Troll rpm) and Cruise mode as per the operating manual is available with these Q…
5 RepliesNovember 26, 2018 at 6:19 pm Wayne, If you figure it out how to incorporate something that is glitch free, reliable, intuitive to use, fulled supported, and something you can troubleshooted if problems occurs, let me know.. At this point in time, those parameters do do exist with my “since 2004” experiences using “Mercury Electronics”, AKA “SmartCraft” or what I am not allowed to call it anymore.in a public forum. TonyLast Post by:
posted: 5 years ago
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VDO Boost/Pyro gauge
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5 years ago November 14, 2018 at 11:31 am The Cummins OEM analog marine panel on my trawler has one blank VDO gauge space that I want to use for a combination boost/pyro gauge. The hole size for the ISSPRO SMX Marine Boost/Pyro (EGT) Turbocator Gauge Kit is too large for the VDO gauge space. I have been unable to find this combination in a VDO gauge. Any suggestions? Thanks
5 RepliesNovember 15, 2018 at 5:31 pm Install a VDO Gear PSI guage at the open location in the Cummins panel and then the SMX boost/pyro unit off to either side.Last Post by:
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Vessel View 4 fuel used
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5 years ago October 11, 2018 at 12:53 am I recently installed 2 X QSB 5.9 380 engines into my boat equipped with Vessel View 4 indicators I have no tank quantity indication (I use a dipstick), but note there is good fuel flow indication. Can I set the system up to indicate fuel remaining if I give it the tank capacity of the boat? Or at the least, a āfuel usedā summary after each trip? Thanks in advance Wayne Spalding Tank quantity ~ 1500ltrs
2 RepliesOctober 11, 2018 at 4:27 pm Thanks Corey, itās the manual input that I was after, there is no level sensor in the tankLast Post by:
posted: 5 years ago
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ECM Voltage
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5 years ago May 18, 2017 at 10:43 am Hello Everyone. Lately I have been getting an alarm on my QSB 5.9 which reads “ECM High Battery Volts”. This alarm is intermittent and sounds everyday but does not last all day. Comes and goes when it feels like. Has anyone had any experience with this alarm? I’m thinking it’s a control module of some sort which has its own battery supply?? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Attached a pic of my display. Regards.
11 RepliesOctober 11, 2018 at 6:31 am Yes, the voltage regulator is an internal part of every Cummins supplied alternator… The part is cheap ($15-ish) but is usually only sourced and installed by someone in the business ( meaning a local alternator repair facility).. TonyLast Post by:
posted: 5 years ago
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Sim no J39 data
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