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    David Amble
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    Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
    Country: Australia

    On my previous boat with QSC600 engines, I had a similar problem with the condition of the remote pipes and hoses on my stbd engine, so I just removed the lot and mounted the oil filter directly on the engine.Ā  If you can get to the hoses and pipes at the engine to remove and replace them, you should be able to get to an oil filter fitted there.Ā  Not only did removing the remote piping etc tidy up around the engine, it also gave better oil pressure at the engine, very similar to the other engine.Ā  Just something else to think about. Also, I found a very tiny crack in one of the oil pipes where the bracket was welded to the pipes.Ā  See 3rd photo.

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    #154570

    David Amble
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    Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
    Country: Australia

    Is the oil filter on your starb engine remote mounted?Ā  If so, this is probably the reason for the lower oil pressure compared to the port engine.Ā  I had a similar discrepancy on my previous boat which was fitted with QSC600 engines and once I removed the remote set up and mounted the oil filter directly on the engine, the oil pressures were the same, give or take a few psi.

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    #153570

    David Amble
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    Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
    Country: Australia

    I beg to differ re the purpose of the aluminium ball valve.Ā  Please read the attached article from Passage Maker Magazine.

    #153516

    David Amble
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    Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
    Country: Australia

    The racor filters have an internal check valve ball and seal so I suspect these need replacing.Ā  Racor Check valve kit RK15010B.

    #144988

    David Amble
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    Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
    Country: Australia

    I recently had a similar problem (different engine to yours) with an oil sheen coming out of my port engine exhaust.Ā  After eliminating the possible fuel sources, I bypassed the water side of the transmission oil cooler and started the engine.Ā  This put normal gear oil pressure on the cooler and I was able to look into the water side.Ā  Bingo!

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    #144476

    David Amble
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    Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
    Country: Australia

    That looks like the coolant drain cock to me.Ā  P/N 185-5846

    #134712

    David Amble
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    Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
    Country: Australia

    I would be looking a replacing the temperature sensor in stbd zeus drive , or at least swapping them over to see if the fault goes with it. 76C at 600RPM in neutral is most probably not due to the cooler or the water flow. For your refence, my last boat had triple QSC600/Zeus drives and when cruising at 2400 rpm, the gear oil temperature never got over 65C at 25C water temperature and there was never more than 3 degrees difference between the three engines.Ā Ā 

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    #132642

    David Amble
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    Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
    Country: Australia

    I would suggest you tell your local Cummins service people to contact Cummins Carole Park in Brisbane as they have a wealth of knowledge in commissioning and servicing Zeus drives.Ā  They should be able to point them in the right direction.

    #132481

    David Amble
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    Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
    Country: Australia

    When I said the sensors were connected behind the VV displays, they were actually connected to the harness.Ā  I attach a couple of photos that I took when sorting these out.Ā  FYI, that boat had triple Cummins QSC600 engines driving Zeus drives, hence the 3 displays.

    #132299

    David Amble
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    Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
    Country: Australia

    My last boat had Vessel View displays and each of them had an ambient temperature sensor connected at the rear.Ā  The boat builder left these under the dash which was useless so I ran one to the air intake box for the engine room and ran the other to the centre of the engine room, thus giving me me the temperature of the air going into the engine room and the engine room temperature itself.Ā  They were there so I put them to some use.Ā  The parameter was actually labelled as ‘air temperature’ whereas you are saying yours is labelled ‘water temperature’ so perhaps not!

    #130390

    David Amble
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    Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
    Country: Australia

    Years ago, I had a Riviera 43 (99 model) and set up a fuel polishing system as per the attached photo.Ā  Basically two 3-way valves and a circulating pump.Ā  Also, I once had the opportunity to see inside the fuel tank of a 43 (someone else had cut one open to make it larger) and I noticed the fuel supply came from the forward bottom of the tank and the fuel returns had internal pipes leading from the forward top of the tank to the aft of the tank, so there actually quite good turn over of the fuel when polishing.Ā  I did not have problem with fuel but installed the circulation system as basically something to do.Ā  My current boat (Riv 51) has a forward long range tank and I am able to ‘batch’ filter the fuel from one tank to the other if need be.

    #128094

    David Amble
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    Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
    Country: Australia

    I suggest that is a fuel oil return cooler as a gear box oil cooler is not required when the engines are fitted to Zeus drives.Ā  My previous boat had QSC engines driving Zeus and the engines were not fitted with gear box oil coolers or fuel oil return coolers; straight pipe as per Tony’s option above.Ā  The Zeus drives each had two oil coolers for transmission oil cooling and hydraulic oil cooling.

    #119221

    David Amble
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    Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
    Country: Australia

    Correct. The gear oil is mostly in the leg (underwater part) and hence is cooled by the surrounding water.
    I presume the QSB manual is generic in that it assumes the engine is connected to a shaft drive gear transmission which would have an oil cooler.

    #109752

    David Amble
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    Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
    Country: Australia

    Hi, Lee.
    You need both the serial number and the model number which is located on the pod base plate.
    If after all this time, you are still having problems sourcing parts, I suggest if not already done so you contact Rudi Wehrend, Field Service Supervisor at Cummins Carole Park (Brisbane) 07 3710 4751. Rudi and his service engineers are very experienced with Cummins Zeus and have been of great support to me (and many others) over the years.
    He should be able to advise the correct part along with price and availability.
    As for the mercathodes, to change these out properly, the leg needs to be removed as well as requiring various new seals, etc. Again, Rudi is the man to contact.
    I hope this helps and that you get the boat going soon.
    David.

    #109211

    David Amble
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    Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
    Country: Australia

    And then spray with Mercury Corrosion Guard and repeat annually (as per the maintenance manual). This was done on mine from new and after nine years and they are still as good as new (well they were when I sold the boat last month).

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    #107463

    David Amble
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    Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
    Country: Australia

    I use a good boat trailer wheel bearing grease on bolts around water systems and a Moly grease on high temperature bolts. Again available at Supercheap or any reasonable auto shop.

    #107457

    David Amble
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    Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
    Country: Australia

    Yes, difficult to find Rectorseal in Australia. I ended up buying some through Amazon and even then it came in from the US. Final cost delivered to my door was A$25.17 for a 1/4 pint tin.

    As for end caps on 6BT/A heat exchangers and also Onan heat exchangers, I prefer to fit the end caps and gaskets clean and dry; definitely do NOT over tighten and make sure the small ring goes on the bolt between the end cap and the gasket. Never had a leak and usually get multiple uses out of the gaskets if removed carefully.

    If you want to use something on the gasket and can’t get Rectorseal, a smear of red rubber grease works fine; readily available at Supercheap Auto stores.

    #106050

    David Amble
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    Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
    Country: Australia

    I presume the QSB has similar diagnostic capabilities as QSC and if so I would get a Cummins Engineer down to the boat and have him plug in his laptop and bring up the Duty Cycle Monitor. This will show exactly where your engine is running with respect to torque % over the full RPM range. This information in addition to the theoretical (and corrected) fuel curve will help in your decision on whether to keep adjusting propeller pitch.

    #103189

    David Amble
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    Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
    Country: Australia

    Check the coolant level in the header tank. The error codes are displayed in the run hours window. Code 197 is Coolant Low Level. As it warms up and the level rises, it probably clears the alarm and then displays the run hours. Smartcraft is smarter than some people think!

    #101822

    David Amble
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    Location: Gold Coast, Queensland
    Country: Australia

    I have noticed a similar discrepancy on my boat. The hour meter on the Onan MDKBT generator itself is currently 1858.9 and I believe this to be accurate (as Tony says) and what I record and use for maintenance purposes. The Vessel View is showing 1881.0 hours (after 8.5 years). After a quick look at the Onan wiring diagram and the interface connections to Smartcraft, it looks like a ‘run’ signal (positive voltage) goes to the Vessel View and it relies on the internal clock of the Vessel View to ‘count the run time’. I can’t see anyway of adjusting this and to be perfectly honest, it doesn’t bother me. I have also noticed the the current time hh:mm ‘clock’ in the Vessel View gains time compared to the GPS clock (which is highly accurate) so I am presuming that this faster clock mechanism in the Vessel View is why the generator run hours are greater than the actual hours. Just my thoughts and others may have a different opinion.
    David

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