Cummins Marine Diesel Repower Specialists Forums General Discussion Low idle RPM at startup, then normal?

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    George Kay
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    Country: United States

    Hello,

    New member. Twin 6CTA8.3 450 diamonds on a 2001 Tiara 3800. Approx 1500 hours.

    Purchased 2-3 months ago. Immediately updated the water pumps to SMX, pulled aftercoolers and hx exchangers, seemed the previous owner kept them clean. No maintenance records though, was just told ā€œhe kept them pristine, open checkbook etc.ā€

    The RPMs via tach are different than when phototached but not too bad. The RPM on the tach shows lower.

    Anyway!!! I digress.
    I read that you can tell a lot about an engine on a cold startup. The only issue Iā€™m having right now is that on a ā€œcoldā€ startup , weeks in between startups, 65 degree weather, the engines startup right away. BUT, the engines start up at a very low RPM ~500rpm. Then, when the engines warm up they creep back to ~650rpm.
    This causes basically the engines to startup kinda like misfiring?? At the 500rpm, so I throttle up at the dock to about 750-800 until the engines warm up to about 100degrees. OR if my guests are late for fishing (most of the time, LOL) I just put it in gear and go. This lowers the RPMs more for about 5-10 seconds then Back to normal in gear.

    Is this normal?? Sorry for the long question as my first question LOL. Thank you guys!!

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    Tony Athens
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    Vessel Name: Local Banks
    Engines: QSB 6.7 550 HP
    Location: Oxnard, CA
    Country: USA

    Cut and paste whre is says “suggested idle is 650 RPM”…………………………..One of us will be eating humble pie..

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    Harry Karaoglanian
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    Sorry, idk why my original post was under a different user. I must have logged in under my dads email.

    #121045

    Harry Karaoglanian
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    Follow ip

    After starting, immediately bring the engines up 100-200 RPM to smooth them out

    This^, if Iā€™m up 100-200 rpm from the 500 at startup that makes me around 650-700rpm. Is it ok to shift into gear with the throttles up? I worry I might ruin the transmissions. I usually never shift while my throttles are not all the way backed off.

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    Harry Karaoglanian
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    Hey Tony. Thank you so much for the information.

    Warming up engines at the dock- 9 times out of 10, no. I usually crank, untie the boat, And put into gear. But when I do this, especially right at startup, the RPMs are at ~500rpm. Then, after Iā€™m done maneuvering my way out of the slip, I throttle up to about 750-800. As I make my way out the harbor, the engines warm up and when I back off completely from the throttle (still in gear) I am only then at the suggested 650idle.

    Sounds ok? Sorry if itā€™s a really petty question.

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    Tony Athens
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    Vessel Name: Local Banks
    Engines: QSB 6.7 550 HP
    Location: Oxnard, CA
    Country: USA

    Are you attempting to warm up the engines at the dock? That is a 100% no-no

    Raise the base idle RPM to something over 650-700 when the engine are warm–This engine rarely likes much below 700 when warm

    After starting, immediately bring the engines up 100-200 RPM to smooth them out–Do your checks and get the boat out of the slip and at something above 700 to warm them up in gear

    #120997

    donald roth
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    Vessel Name: Paumalu
    Engines: Cummins 6BT 180 hp
    Location: where the fish are!
    Country: United States

    Possibly air in fuel system?

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