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November 9, 2021 at 8:07 am #122818
William WalterParticipantVessel Name: Positive rate
Engines: Cummings 480ce
Location: Long island
Country: Usa
When I purchased boat it had a 30 micron filter in racor and a 5285 on engine filter .It was recommended to me to change the racor to a 10 micron filter.480 ce.wondering if 10 micron is the norm.Bill
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November 16, 2021 at 8:44 pm #123156
Fireisland1ParticipantVessel Name: Riverwind
Engines: cummins QSB 380
Location: long island n.y.
Country: usa
Iāve been using 2 mic Racor and 2mic fleetguard. I change them at 100 hours. Never had any issues
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November 16, 2021 at 7:49 pm #123154William, I typically run less than 50 hours a year. I change fuel filters every two years. There has never been an instance of decreased engine performance and honestly the filters could go at least another two years as they never show any crud in them. I do purchase my fuel at places that sell a lot of diesel also, nothing sitting around for long.
November 16, 2021 at 7:25 pm #123153
Mike UliaszParticipantVessel Name: Runnin' Down a Dream
Engines: Cummins 6bta-M3 370hp
Location: Mathews, VA
Country: United States
Tony,
QQ, I’ve got the orginal setup on my Pursuit, Racor with the 10 Micron element and the FF5285 Fleetguard Fuel (20 Micron) on the engine.Is there a better micron filter configuration with the Racor element or with the last chance engine filter?
ThanksNovember 16, 2021 at 7:10 pm #123151
Tony AthensModeratorVessel Name: Local Banks
Engines: QSB 6.7 550 HP
Location: Oxnard, CA
Country: USA
I am going to answer this for Mark too…………….You change it as often as needed based on your fuel quality and the crud that is in your tanks…………………… Install a vacuum gauge…………………You do not want to send what-ever clogs your 2-mic filter to the last chance “ON-ENGINE” filter………………………..Understand, I am not trying to sell you anything, I am trying to save you $$ in the long run.
November 16, 2021 at 6:18 am #123079
William WalterParticipantVessel Name: Positive rate
Engines: Cummings 480ce
Location: Long island
Country: Usa
Change interval
Mark with the 2 micron do you change more often? I know every boats different but how often are you changing filters and how are they looking when you do.Are you using hours or calendar for your changes.
November 15, 2021 at 6:32 pm #123069I have been running 2 microns in my Racors for years after chatting with Tony. Never a problem.
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November 15, 2021 at 12:07 pm #123053
William WalterParticipantVessel Name: Positive rate
Engines: Cummings 480ce
Location: Long island
Country: Usa
Filter replacement
I think Iām definitely going to go with the 10 micron and monitor the situation a little closer.would like to either add a filter or go with the double but my space limitations make it look like a major problem.Thanks for all the input.
November 13, 2021 at 2:18 pm #123015
William WalterParticipantVessel Name: Positive rate
Engines: Cummings 480ce
Location: Long island
Country: Usa
Filter
Reverso works great. I usually use it to suck everything out but put the oil in the normal way.just me but it goes both ways.
November 13, 2021 at 12:38 pm #123014
Jason LeslieParticipantVessel Name: PierFection
Engines: Detroit 6V92TA
Location: Channel Islands, California
Country: U.S.A.
By the way how do you like the Reverso oil change system?
November 11, 2021 at 6:49 pm #122959
Tony AthensModeratorVessel Name: Local Banks
Engines: QSB 6.7 550 HP
Location: Oxnard, CA
Country: USA
Since he seems to like changing his RACOR element , go to a 2-Mic element ………….. Sending crud to the on-engine “last-chance ” filter is a big NO-NO in my book……………………..Injection pumps and injector are BIG $$$..
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November 11, 2021 at 6:08 pm #122949
Rob SchepisForum ModeratorVessel Name: Tenacious
Engines: 6BTA 5.9 330's - "Seaboard Style"
Location: Long Island, NY
Country: USA
Wow that Racor is quite the shoehorn install and anything but the drop in housing aināt gonna work there IMO. Can you relocate anywhere else?
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November 11, 2021 at 4:12 pm #122939
William WalterParticipantVessel Name: Positive rate
Engines: Cummings 480ce
Location: Long island
Country: Usa
Filter choice
Thanks Tony So from what I can see I can add I believe the bulk number 3 to my existing system or as Steve says go with the double. I have limited space where my existing racor is .itās easy to change the racor filter but getting to the bowl to drain is a bear.would like a system that is more accessible.Wondering if youāve ever made the change on a 38 tiara. Thanks Bill
November 11, 2021 at 6:20 am #122910
Tony AthensModeratorVessel Name: Local Banks
Engines: QSB 6.7 550 HP
Location: Oxnard, CA
Country: USA
IMO, if you are sending black gunk to your on-engine filter, then you need to do a better job on fuel filtering before the engine.. Add a 30 Mic bulk spin-on separator before your RACOR that should use a 10 Mic element..The bulk separator will add 3X to the Racor and 6-10 X the life to the on-engine filter..
November 9, 2021 at 10:02 am #122829
William WalterParticipantVessel Name: Positive rate
Engines: Cummings 480ce
Location: Long island
Country: Usa
Filter
Thanks Mike and Steve for the info.link was helpful. I think Iāll switch to the 10 micron especially after the Cummins guy said I had some black when he cracked the injectors. Iām also going to increase my filter changes also.was doing it by hours but Iām going to make sure they are at least once a year.was concerned what Cummins guy said so I replaced the on engine filter and cut it open.seemed pretty black but no debris.
November 9, 2021 at 9:36 am #122828
Steve LewisParticipantVessel Name: Just Us
Engines: Cummins 480CE
Location: Marblehead, OH
Country: USA
WW,
Same setup on my boat. Had Dual Racors on each engine and the maint records showed the 30mic filter part. I was toying with the idea of using the 10mic filter part but went the extra step and had the SBMAR Double Double with squeeze bulbs installed to replace said Racors. So now I am multi-stage off engine. 20mic for the first filter which then feeds into the second filter in series which is 10mic and then we both have the same on engine filter at 10mic.
Had that done in July when we made the first attempt at the cyl head replacement. My base line on the drag needle is 3. It did not change all season. I will watch next season and see if it moves.
Tony has always said that you can not have fuel that is too clean. Helps with the life of the injectors. I had injectors rebuilt on the Port side as part of the work effort in July. Will do the strbd side over this winter.
Is this normal? Probably not. Is this a best practice? I would guess that Tony would say yes on the filters.
November 9, 2021 at 9:33 am #122827
Mike UliaszParticipantVessel Name: Runnin' Down a Dream
Engines: Cummins 6bta-M3 370hp
Location: Mathews, VA
Country: United States
Bill,
My boat had a 10 micron filter in racor when I purchased. I asked if it should be a 30 micron. A local mechanic said it should be a 30, but actually the 10 is the way to go.
See Tony & Rob’s reply’s:
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