Cummins Marine Diesel Repower Specialists Forums Cummins Marine Engines Cummins 6bt wont get up to WOT after fuel line blockage

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  • #143747

    Joseph Byrne
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    Vessel Name: Intrigue
    Engines: Cummins 6bta
    Location: New Zealand
    Country: New Zealand

    Hi All

    i just got the motor (Cummins 6bt 250hp) running after a fuel blockage (massive build up of gunk in the fuel line and the primary fuel filters).

    I primed the system and got fuel going through, cracked the injectors and waited for the bubbles to stop.

    just took it out for a quick run to see how it was going and it runs smoothly and is smoking a lot less than it was! But wonā€™t rev past 2200 RPMĀ 

    Any ideas?Ā 

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  • #144253

    Rob Schepis
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    Vessel Name: Tenacious
    Engines: 6BTA 5.9 330's - "Seaboard Style"
    Location: Long Island, NY
    Country: USA

    Leave the fuel fill caps off when introducing air pressure into the fuel lines.

    You should remove the fuel pickups and check the tubes for clogged screens, etc.Ā  Any screens on fuel pickups are bad, you want the pickups to act like vacuums and allow the filtration system to get the junk and filter it out.Ā  Therefore, pickups should be large diameter and very close to the bottom of the tank.

    #144145

    Joseph Byrne
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    Vessel Name: Intrigue
    Engines: Cummins 6bta
    Location: New Zealand
    Country: New Zealand

    I had a quick look in the tank through the small sender unit hole and it looks reasonably clean.

    it does have a couple of baffles in it and I canā€™t see the fuel pickup.Ā <br />I have the professional tank cleaning guys coming to have a look and give me a quote to clean it and as part of that add in an inspection port.

    Iā€™m also heading up to the boat tomorrow to blow out the lines including the return line this time and check the filters again, maybe look at replacing the old fuel lines while Iā€™m at it

     

    #144144

    pwrobert
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    What is your fuel tank made of? Does it have a clean-out port? Ā If not consider installing one in the most accessible place in the section that has the fuel pickup. Likely you canā€™t get directly to all areas because of baffles but if you make a 6 inch opening you can likely direct some jetted fuel or scrubbers through some of the holes at the bottom of the baffles.Ā <br />even with scrubbing the bottom of the tank there will likely be some gunk clinging to baffles. But since the issue came up when the level got lower most will be below that level. When fuel sloshes in a partially filled tank the greatest agitation is in the top few inches of liquid. Think of waves on the surface not doing much to divers.Ā <br />anyway you donā€™t have to get at the whole tank but using a fuel polisher for a while would be good. Best to only put In aĀ few gallons and run in some rough water on purpose and keep a eye on the vacuum gauges. first sign of it getting in the yellow – stop and change them and repeat until everything is good for a reasonable interval. Ā pita. But better when your under control and not when cruising. Ā  Been there done that.Ā 

    #143817

    Joseph Byrne
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    Vessel Name: Intrigue
    Engines: Cummins 6bta
    Location: New Zealand
    Country: New Zealand

    I didnā€™t clean out the tanks, I have a fuel filter system running between the tanks and the engine filter.

    I did put a diesel bug killing additive in but Iā€™m guessing thatā€™s not going to be enough.

    one other thing is the fuel lines are old copper lines, thinking it would be wise if I replaced these with new ?

     

    #143814

    donald roth
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    Vessel Name: Paumalu
    Engines: Cummins 6BT 180 hp
    Location: where the fish are!
    Country: United States

    Have you cleaned the tanks? Ā Thats where the crud is coming from, your efforts will be futile until the tanks are clean, or you install a filtration system that has a high enough capacity to accomplish that, and a water separator.Ā 

    #143806

    Joseph Byrne
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    Vessel Name: Intrigue
    Engines: Cummins 6bta
    Location: New Zealand
    Country: New Zealand

    Hi Tony

    it was running fine until we came back in some rough ish seas with only 200l of diesel left in the tanks and I think it sucked all the gunk up from the bottom. Maybe had 15-20 minutes running in that rough.

    I donā€™t have the last chance filter anymore, I threw it away. I look in it and the fuel was clean. The fuel in the first filters was black with gunge, the fuel looked like old oilĀ 

     

    #143805

    Tony Athens
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    Vessel Name: Local Banks
    Engines: QSB 6.7 550 HP
    Location: Oxnard, CA
    Country: USA

    Not making RPM?

    Exactly how long was it “BEFORE”?Ā  Ā 

    Did you cut open the old “last chance fuel filter to “see” what was in it?Ā  May you stll have in in the trash can?

    #143799

    Joseph Byrne
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    Vessel Name: Intrigue
    Engines: Cummins 6bta
    Location: New Zealand
    Country: New Zealand

    Hi Rob

    i blew back through the main line but didnā€™t blow back through the return line.

    filter on the engine itself was totally clean but I replaced it anyway.

    never had a problem before this getting to WOT of 2600rpm

    i also added a fuel treatment to the tank and filled it up with fresh diesel

    #143794

    Rob Schepis
    Forum Moderator
    Vessel Name: Tenacious
    Engines: 6BTA 5.9 330's - "Seaboard Style"
    Location: Long Island, NY
    Country: USA

    How about the on engine filter?Ā Ā 

    Did you back flush ALL of the lines back to the tank?

    Is this the first time you every had an RPM issue?Ā  What was max RPM before the fuel issue?

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