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May 1, 2017 at 6:13 pm #18175
I’ve searched thru the forums here, boatdiesel, and Tiara but struck out. Maybe someone can point me in the right direction.
I have twin QSB 5.9 engines with cone shaped air filters that look like K&N linen filters used in cars. Should I just wash them in mild detergent and oil them with K&N oil? Or do I just replace them? At what interval? Thx.
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May 13, 2017 at 9:15 am #18599
Thanks for the information. Again, I learn something new, which is why I asked.
I have no idea if/when the internal coalescing filter was changed. I also don’t know when/if the filter was cleaned last. 1000 hours on the engine at this point, of which 250 were hours I put on over a year.
So far as I mentioned above, the gauge on the Airsep has not shown any restriction, but I think it is time to clean the filter just based on its appearance. A quick check showed that the internal disposable filter is definitely expensive. I can get 2 of them for $300 but of course only need one. Buying one isn’t half the price amazingly enough.
That does make Tony’s CCV kit pretty attractive. I think I will do that once I get my other issues figured out.
May 11, 2017 at 7:56 pm #18554
Tony AthensModeratorVessel Name: Local Banks
Engines: QSB 6.7 550 HP
Location: Oxnard, CA
Country: USA
Walker Airseps: IMO that are well thought out and well made units ( at least the later versions for the Cummins “Q” engines”–I think they leaned from the Cumnins B which was a complete disaster), but are extremely expensive to maintain per their “protocol” both in Dollars and time.. …………To me, they are purposely over designed, & way overly complex for only one reason–Long term sales for maintenance down the road……………….Way simpler solutions for a CCV or air cleaner and will do as good as job, or better job with out hurting your wallet..
Tony
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May 11, 2017 at 2:52 pm #18549
Jen WrenParticipantVessel Name: Vaquera
Engines: QSB 540's
Location: Baja California Sur
Country: Mexico
Elephant in the room
There is more to servicing Airseps than has talked about. That coned shape air filter is clamped to a canister. That canister contains a coalescing filter that Walker recommends changing every 500 hours. To my knowledge there is no aftermarket coalescing filter and Walker is very proud of theirs. Also weather you change the coalescing filter or not be careful reassembling, if the big o-rings are not installed and seated correctly they can be sucked down the turbo.
May 10, 2017 at 4:55 am #18457
Joel HildenParticipantVessel Name: Sway
Engines: Cummins 480CE
Location: Chesapeake Bay
Country: United States
Walker air seps are not identical to K&N air filters, but obviously it’s a similar concept of oil-impregnated fabric that filters the air. Walker recommends using their kit to clean and re-oil the filters, and they actually caution against servicing them too often as it can impair the vacuum action. The air seps do more than just filter the incoming air, they keep oily crankcase gases from polluting the air and fouling your engine room. Ever seen an engine room with a pair of hard-working Detroit diesels that simply vent the crankcase gases?
May 7, 2017 at 6:46 pm #18346Why Ask
K&N are not Walker Airseps…..Marine diesels are not highway diesels. Walker airseps should be cleaned every 250 hours under normal useage. I would recommend using the Walker cleaning kit.
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May 5, 2017 at 10:09 am #18268Gary,
I am in the same situation. This is my first large Diesel engine. I also have the 5.9L QSB with the Walker Airsep. On mine, there is an indicator on the unit that is supposed to tell you when there is beginning to be restriction on the filter. After a year of owning the boat, mine doesn’t show any restriction.
I have the same question though, should I clean and re-oil the filter anyway? I would use the same cleaner and oil as I use with the K&N filters on my cars but frankly don’t want to bother if not needed. The ER is a very clean place on my boat so not sure how much particulate the filter would pick up anyway.
May 3, 2017 at 6:00 am #18211I spent a few more hours digging around the interwebs, and discovered what I have is called an airsep made by walker. Since they have the instructions and maintenance materials I guess I’m all set. This is my first big diesel boat so this stuff is all new to me.
May 1, 2017 at 7:19 pm #18178
Tony AthensModeratorVessel Name: Local Banks
Engines: QSB 6.7 550 HP
Location: Oxnard, CA
Country: USA
Have you considered posting some good pictures?
You might be amazed what may come back,
Tony
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