Cummins Marine Diesel Repower Specialists Forums Cummins Marine Engines Considerations for 6BTA with High-Output Alternator

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    Eric J.
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    Vessel Name: Serendipity
    Engines: 6BTA & 6LYA-STP
    Location: Florida
    Country: USA

    Background: I’m considering removing the 12.5kW Westerbeke diesel genset from a boat that has a pair of Cummins 330B engines (2001 vintage).

    I want to replace the genset with a pair of Magnum Inverter/Chargers (stacked) and a roughly 48kW-Hour battery bank (LiFePO4).Ā  This will cover our requirements for 24-72 hours.

    When away from shore power for extended periods I want to re-charge the LiFePO4’s by replacing one or both of the existing Cummins alternators with high-output models ~250A each (Balmar or equivalent).

    Use Case: Under normal conditions we’d recharge the batteries from shore power or, while underway recharge them from the alternators while cruising at 1,400-1,600 rpm, but there will be times when we’ve spent a few days on the hook and then I will need to run an engine or two to recharge the battery bank.Ā  I believe 2-4 hours of runtime with the alternators putting out ~400-500 amps will be typical.

    Question:Ā  Will there be any considerations or negative impacts from running these engines lightly loaded at a ‘fast idle’ (800-1,000 rpm, transmissions in neutral) for about 2-4 hours every two or three days, perhaps for several weeks between cruising them at normal speeds/engine loads?

    I think the ideal RPMs I’d want to run will be dictated by the alternator output I need in order to re-charge the batteries as quickly as possible, but would I do better to run higher RPMs than needed to prevent problems with the engines? Is extended running at relatively light loads ok?

    Lastly, would it be better to run one engine for six hours (alternating Port and Starboard) or both engines for three hours?<br /><br />Thanks in advance!

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    Tony Athens
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    Vessel Name: Local Banks
    Engines: QSB 6.7 550 HP
    Location: Oxnard, CA
    Country: USA

    1———–The alternator drive system on your 6BTA’s will not support driving an alternator output above about 60-70 AMP’s at 700 Idle RPM,Ā  or much above 180- 200 AMP at 1500 RPM.. ………..

    And that is IF everything is perfectĀ Ā  I use 13.5-13.8VDC as the bases line measured at the battery terminals

    And IMO, do not waste any money on any small framed pumped-up alternator just because it happens to “fit” your 6BTA mounting systems–They do not last Ā  Pull your belt guard and snap some pics so I can ID what you have now..

    There are at least 3 styles of basic afternator systems the 6 BTA’sĀ  have used since the early 90’s when 1st released. Ā 

     

    Who is doing the overall engineering of this “plan”.

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