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    Lawrence Ross
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    Vessel Name: Wanderin L&M
    Engines: 480 CE
    Location: Port ST Lucie FL
    Country: United States

    jjm that is what i found out also and told you in my post just use the two pin method work fine for me

    Larry

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    #97935

    Lawrence Ross
    Participant
    Vessel Name: Wanderin L&M
    Engines: 480 CE
    Location: Port ST Lucie FL
    Country: United States

    it fits in side your shaft coupler to remove the nut so you can take the coupler off the shaft.

    i had to have one made when i bent a shaft

    was hard to find make sure you don’t lose it

    Larry

    #97696

    Lawrence Ross
    Participant
    Vessel Name: Wanderin L&M
    Engines: 480 CE
    Location: Port ST Lucie FL
    Country: United States

    jjm I used the timing pin on the engine cam shaft and the timing tool in the injection pump to lock the pump.
    Make sure you are on number one top dead center on compression stroke then i locked the cam pin and installed the pump make sure you use a new oring and new oil seal o ring’ I filled the pump with some oil throw the hole for the timing plug when i took it out to turn the locking tool around.
    the rebuilder that tried to repair my old pump said that by the time you crank the engine over to bleed th air out and get the motor running the oil pressure would fill the pump with oil.

    wondering why you had to change your pump how many hours on it??
    Larry

    #89431

    Lawrence Ross
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    Vessel Name: Wanderin L&M
    Engines: 480 CE
    Location: Port ST Lucie FL
    Country: United States

    Tony I have attached pictures for you I was off the boat yesterday took a 5 hour drive to the injection shop to drop off the pump He told me to set the motor up with the pin in the pump and the pin in the cam and forget the book
    Just donā€™t know why Cummins has it different? I did mark the damper both ways and as you can see from my picture the marks come out in different positions
    Larry.

    #89338

    Lawrence Ross
    Participant
    Vessel Name: Wanderin L&M
    Engines: 480 CE
    Location: Port ST Lucie FL
    Country: United States

    Gary according to the rebuilder they set the injection offset into the pump which is 23 degrees

    Larry

    #89319

    Lawrence Ross
    Participant
    Vessel Name: Wanderin L&M
    Engines: 480 CE
    Location: Port ST Lucie FL
    Country: United States

    Tony I sent you the pictures hope you got them

    took the pump to the rebuilder yesterday and he told me just use the pin method

    don’t know why Cummins talks about the other way

    the piston method does come out with a different TDC then the pin method

    the manuel is bulletin 3666003 20-april-2007
    Larry

    #89034

    Lawrence Ross
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    Vessel Name: Wanderin L&M
    Engines: 480 CE
    Location: Port ST Lucie FL
    Country: United States

    Thanks Tony
    I understand about the pins what bothers me is the cummins book says not to use the camshaft lock pin to find TDC but to turn the engine over with the intake valve held open by adjusting the screw to keep it open turn slowly until piston touches the valve and make a mark on the damper then turn the engine the opposite direction until the piston touches again and mark the damper the difference between the to 2 marks should be TDC.

    when i do that the difference between that method and using the two pin method is about 5 degrees on the damper not sure which marks to use to install the rebuilt pump was hoping someone could clarify this for me.

    the cummins manual says not to use the pin method for marine engines use it only for automotive and industrial applications
    when i took the pump out I used the pin method and the pump pin went in ok as well as the cam pin
    thus engine always used more fuel than the other engine just for infromation??
    .

    Thanks Larry

    #75166

    Lawrence Ross
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    Vessel Name: Wanderin L&M
    Engines: 480 CE
    Location: Port ST Lucie FL
    Country: United States

    Hi Tony JUst got back to the boat issues Had a Knee replaced and could notget in the engine room until now I am moving the boat north for the summer. the problem is still with me

    you talked about the motor mounts they were replaced two years ago at that time i talked to you about them and they were way down on the stringers.

    the vibration is very very rough when it happens

    do you have any injection shops on the east coast you know about that will work on this bosch electronic pump
    thanks sorry for the long delay but life got in the way
    Larry

    #36898

    Lawrence Ross
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    Vessel Name: Wanderin L&M
    Engines: 480 CE
    Location: Port ST Lucie FL
    Country: United States

    Thanks Tony will do no damage just bad rubber blocks on the non pressure side wounder what they did? the pressure side rubber is very hard will call Centra on Monday

    #36834

    Lawrence Ross
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    Vessel Name: Wanderin L&M
    Engines: 480 CE
    Location: Port ST Lucie FL
    Country: United States

    Tony got it all apart attached are the pictures hope this helps

    #36717

    Lawrence Ross
    Participant
    Vessel Name: Wanderin L&M
    Engines: 480 CE
    Location: Port ST Lucie FL
    Country: United States

    Tony got it apart enoff to get some numbers CENTRA ANTRIEBE D-42755HAAN the D might be O hard to see also CF-DS-45 SAE 11 1/2 0249 00
    Hope this helps looks like the rubber bushing are all that it needs 8 black and 8 Brownish softer ones only had a small piece left of one also looks like 4 blue ones in the center are they available?

    Question the siper part that is on the transmission output shaft will not come off is it just rusted on the splines
    or is it pressed on if i could get that off i could get the rest out

    took some pictures will post some

    Thanks Larry

    #36679

    Lawrence Ross
    Participant
    Vessel Name: Wanderin L&M
    Engines: 480 CE
    Location: Port ST Lucie FL
    Country: United States

    Thanks Tony
    After cleaning the starboard tag and looking at the original survey from 2006 the Number on the survey is 5JA847 it might be 5JP 847 very hard to tell it is done by a hand engraver
    the serial number is correct S14299
    i would probley go with the Survey number as it most likely cleaner then only one year old
    let me know if this works
    Larry

    #36631

    Lawrence Ross
    Participant
    Vessel Name: Wanderin L&M
    Engines: 480 CE
    Location: Port ST Lucie FL
    Country: United States

    Tony Thanks fro the fast reply Port Trany BOM S12671 Serial # 5JK897
    Starboard Trany BOM S14299 Serial # 5JK847
    Both are 2.53 Ratios
    Hope this helps
    Can you tell me how much clearance I would need moving the trany back or engine forward to seek in between to get the coupler unbolted with out having to remove anything from the boat engine room is a bit tight. looks like I could get about 4-6 inches space with out tooo much work
    Thanks
    I guess I know what I am doing fro Labor day weekend this Year

    Larry

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