Cummins Marine Diesel Repower Specialists Forums Cummins Marine Engines 160 VS 180 Thermostat in 6BTA 5.9 M3

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    Mike Uliasz
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    Vessel Name: Runnin' Down a Dream
    Engines: Cummins 6bta-M3 370hp
    Location: Mathews, VA
    Country: United States

    Looking for advice at to whether I should stick with the 180 or change to the 160. I’ve read the article and would change to a 160 if I ran off-shore, get the protection factor from the additional prevent alarm at 190. Here are my current boating conditions:

    Most trips are 15 to 20 minutes cruising before I drop lines, some times less. Max cruises 45 minutes, which I do more just to ‘run’ the boat under a load.

    Troll a lot, 575 rpm in the fall for stripped bass and 800-900 rpms for Spanish mackerel and blues for hours.

    The boat exhaust runs really clean (except on the 30 degree cold starts with no heater).

    Comments/compliments from multiple people how the boat runs clean for a diesel (2 diesel mechanics, GF and family). No transition smoke jumping on a plane. Less fumes than my Shamrock with a Chevy 350 according to my son.

    Will the 160 thermostat likely increase diesel fumes at trolling speeds?

    Thanks

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    JimmyK
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    Vessel Name: Incognito
    Engines: 2 x 6BTA 370s
    Location: Boston
    Country: US

    My experience w/the 160 t-stats in 6bta 370s was meh.  Yes, it ran cooler, but too cool at idle/trolling speeds.  They start opening close to 140 which is just too low.  Maybe I got a couple odd balls but they were both exactly the same.

    Keep the cooling system up to snuff, have an alarm that works, and pay attention.

    #158793

    Patrick Mangum
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    Vessel Name: Patty Wagon
    Engines: Cummins 6BTA 330
    Location: Charleston, SC
    Country: United States

    180 to 160

    I changed my 180s out to the 160s about a year ago.  I noticed no change in fumes or smoke – still clean exhaust.   My boat’s primary function is fishing offshore but in reality more actual time is spent running around at 1000 rpms either trolling or harbor cruising.    The added safety factor was worth it to me.  If you do switch them out, its a good time to add the redundant temp alarm since you’ll have to drain the coolant anyway.

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    #158791

    Zac Schramm
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    Vessel Name: Off Hand
    Engines: 2003 Cummins 6BTA's
    Location: San Diego
    Country: USA

    Another Use Case

    Hi, currently going through this same decision right now with 2003 6BTA.  Seems the 160F thermostat is the right choice for me, but I’d appreciate if you can review my use case.

    Most times leaving the dock I run up to about 2500 for 30 minutes and longer trips at this engine speed for 5 hours.  Other times just short run around the bay at near idle but I’d say 50% of operating time is over 2000 RPM.

    I like your suggestion of an additional independent alarm system, will review and incorporate.

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    Tony Athens
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    Vessel Name: Local Banks
    Engines: QSB 6.7 550 HP
    Location: Oxnard, CA
    Country: USA
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    Mike Uliasz
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    Vessel Name: Runnin' Down a Dream
    Engines: Cummins 6bta-M3 370hp
    Location: Mathews, VA
    Country: United States

    Thanks Tony for the Sunday reply! I’ll research the redundant coolant alarm.

    SMX Board Alarm is set to High Coolant Temp: 201-203 F, have replaced one on the boat.

    The other one is from M & G Electronics, Alarm4-12CUM. Curious on the Temp setting, searched the internet, not luck.
    Thanks

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    Tony Athens
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    Vessel Name: Local Banks
    Engines: QSB 6.7 550 HP
    Location: Oxnard, CA
    Country: USA

    Based on your “duty cycle”, stay with 180’s BUT be sure you have a redundant coolant alarm and maybe even a water flow alarm.. Plenty of “hints” and pics on adding an important safety layer to your ” not very tolerant of an over heat” cooling system.

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