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July 25, 2019 at 7:22 pm #75862
Leander LandrumParticipantVessel Name: 2001 Tiara 3500 Open
Engines: 2x Cummins 6BTA 370
Location: Tacoma WA
Country: US
Hi guys, I bought a 20 year old boat and the receipts from previous owner showed the last time the heat exchangers and aftercoolers were serviced was 2016. So I pulled them to have them serviced at a local radiator shop. When I pulled them the port engine had clear/teal coolant. The starboard engine had teal, but it was not clear at all. From what I’ve researched this is a sign of saltwater intrusion. The radiator shop called today and said the internals are toast and said the local diesel shop could get replacements. (he said both of them were bad) Is this something that’s worth the effort or should I replace the heat exchangers? Cummins 6BTA 370 year 2000 – they have the older heat exchanger with both outlets going down.
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July 31, 2019 at 4:51 am #76119
Rob SchepisForum ModeratorVessel Name: Tenacious
Engines: 6BTA 5.9 330's - "Seaboard Style"
Location: Long Island, NY
Country: USA
I agree with Tony. Do some “body work” or “spackling” on the flat machined ends with JB Weld or grey Marine Tex
July 31, 2019 at 4:25 am #76117
Tony AthensModeratorVessel Name: Local Banks
Engines: QSB 6.7 550 HP
Location: Oxnard, CA
Country: USA
Flat surface is marginal to worse
Inside does not matter as much.
If it was me and I was on a budget ( we all are), bead blast the flat surface, fill with JD WELD, block sand flat and let’s see what yo end up with.
Tony
July 30, 2019 at 7:38 pm #76092
Leander LandrumParticipantVessel Name: 2001 Tiara 3500 Open
Engines: 2x Cummins 6BTA 370
Location: Tacoma WA
Country: US
This is same housing again. It’s the only surface with bad pitting. The rest have none or minimal.
July 30, 2019 at 7:34 pm #76090
Leander LandrumParticipantVessel Name: 2001 Tiara 3500 Open
Engines: 2x Cummins 6BTA 370
Location: Tacoma WA
Country: US
I still plan to put them back together per the instructional videos you guys have put up.
Post good pictures of your housings ā especially the flat machined top and bottom surfaces where the caps mount.
Is this too far gone? Replace or reassemble and and test it?
July 30, 2019 at 4:07 am #76029
Rob SchepisForum ModeratorVessel Name: Tenacious
Engines: 6BTA 5.9 330's - "Seaboard Style"
Location: Long Island, NY
Country: USA
Heat Exchanger PSI Test
Roger that. Radiator shop called and both exchangers tested fine.
I would pressure test that heat exchanger from the cloudy coolant engine myself when it comes back from the radiator shop. I am only a true believer with zero doubt when it’s with my own eyes…….
July 29, 2019 at 1:34 pm #76000
Leander LandrumParticipantVessel Name: 2001 Tiara 3500 Open
Engines: 2x Cummins 6BTA 370
Location: Tacoma WA
Country: US
3 ā āevenā 10 year old low hour coolant is not your issue if all was was good when installed..Something has changed if the coolant went bad. Again, the aftercoolers have nothing to do with the coolant.
Tony
Roger that. Radiator shop called and both exchangers tested fine. I will put her back together, monitor, and get the coolant tested if I see discoloration again.
July 29, 2019 at 12:46 pm #75997
Tony AthensModeratorVessel Name: Local Banks
Engines: QSB 6.7 550 HP
Location: Oxnard, CA
Country: USA
3 – “even” 10 year old low hour coolant is not your issue if all was was good when installed..Something has changed if the coolant went bad. Again, the aftercoolers have nothing to do with the coolant.
Tony
July 29, 2019 at 6:07 am #75968
Leander LandrumParticipantVessel Name: 2001 Tiara 3500 Open
Engines: 2x Cummins 6BTA 370
Location: Tacoma WA
Country: US
Was it black-ish in color? Did you take a pic of it in a glass jar? How old was the coolant?I just bought her in February, talked to the prior owner and he thinks it hasn’t been changed since 2016, when he had the exchangers and aftercoolers serviced.
July 29, 2019 at 3:22 am #75963
Rob SchepisForum ModeratorVessel Name: Tenacious
Engines: 6BTA 5.9 330's - "Seaboard Style"
Location: Long Island, NY
Country: USA
Coolant
I just find it worrisome that one engine had clear teal coolant and the other had coolant that you canāt see 1/2 an inch deep through it. If not saltwater, what could cause that?
Was it black-ish in color? Did you take a pic of it in a glass jar? How old was the coolant?
July 29, 2019 at 3:18 am #75962
Rob SchepisForum ModeratorVessel Name: Tenacious
Engines: 6BTA 5.9 330's - "Seaboard Style"
Location: Long Island, NY
Country: USA
Aftercoolers
I still plan to put them back together per the instructional videos you guys have put up.
Post good pictures of your housings – especially the flat machined top and bottom surfaces where the caps mount.
July 27, 2019 at 10:48 am #75930
Leander LandrumParticipantVessel Name: 2001 Tiara 3500 Open
Engines: 2x Cummins 6BTA 370
Location: Tacoma WA
Country: US
Iām confusedā What do the aftercooler cores have to do with the coolant?
As to your coolant looking ODD, not sure if that is what salt water does.. I personally have never seen that from salt water intrusion..
Did the shop pressure test the Heat-Exchangers?
Who is putting your aftercoolers back together? Plenty of radiator shops have no clue on these unique designs although they always say they do.
Tony
The aftercoolers have nothing to do with it, both problems are just surfacing (I bought the boat in February and decided to take those parts off and get them serviced as they were last serviced in 2016).
The shop pressure tested one heat exchanger, they haven’t gotten to the other one yet. I just find it worrisome that one engine had clear teal coolant and the other had coolant that you can’t see 1/2 an inch deep through it. If not saltwater, what could cause that? I actually bought the kit from you guys planning to just do this myself, but when the coolant came out funky I decided I should have a shop do it and check them. I still plan to put them back together per the instructional videos you guys have put up.
Steve – one of them came out ok, the other was stuck in there pretty good per the radiator shop.
July 27, 2019 at 10:28 am #75929
Stephen OliverParticipantVessel Name: Ascella
Engines: 2x Cummins 330hp Diamond
Location: Perth, Australia
Country: Australia
What did they say was wrong with them? Look better than mine were and I had mine repaired.. did they have to smash them out of the housing or did they slip out ok?
Steve
July 27, 2019 at 10:26 am #75928
Tony AthensModeratorVessel Name: Local Banks
Engines: QSB 6.7 550 HP
Location: Oxnard, CA
Country: USA
I’m confused– What do the aftercooler cores have to do with the coolant?
As to your coolant looking ODD, not sure if that is what salt water does.. I personally have never seen that from salt water intrusion..
Did the shop pressure test the Heat-Exchangers?
Who is putting your aftercoolers back together? Plenty of radiator shops have no clue on these unique designs although they always say they do.
Tony
July 27, 2019 at 8:12 am #75916
Leander LandrumParticipantVessel Name: 2001 Tiara 3500 Open
Engines: 2x Cummins 6BTA 370
Location: Tacoma WA
Country: US
Can anything other than the heat exchanger cause this to happen to coolant? I’m pretty sure this means there is salt water getting in to the coolant. The black part in my hand is just to show how opaque the fluid was. Other engine was very clear teal.
July 26, 2019 at 12:48 pm #75891
Leander LandrumParticipantVessel Name: 2001 Tiara 3500 Open
Engines: 2x Cummins 6BTA 370
Location: Tacoma WA
Country: US
Went to the radiator shop this morning, turns out it was the aftercooler cores. Ordered a new set.
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