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    worldcatlemon
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    Vessel Name: Adjusted Priorities
    Engines: QSB 425 Cummins
    Location: Pacific Northwest
    Country: United States

    So after cleaning the aftercooler core I wanted to pressure test it for leaks before assembling the aftercooler. I saw a picture of the way Seaboard tests them but I wanted something I could hook up quickly since I have 2 aftercoolers to test.

    I thought I would share my cheap and easy design . ABS 4″ pipe with a 5″x4″ reducer, end caps, with one end tapped with a female air fitting and valve so I can regulate the air pressure.

    It took about 20 minutes to build but I can look for leaks before going through the process of reassembly.

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  • #127213

    Matt Lyman
    Participant

    I tested to 25 PSI with air, per a lot of recommendations on this site.Ā 

    #127203

    Rob Schepis
    Forum Moderator
    Vessel Name: Tenacious
    Engines: 6BTA 5.9 330's - "Seaboard Style"
    Location: Long Island, NY
    Country: USA

    I see no reason to go beyond 25psi.

    #127184

    Jim Foster
    Participant

    What psi did you pressurize to? Ive seen someone do 14 or so psi, but then another using 36 psi? What should be correct?

    #127108

    Matt Lyman
    Participant

    I didn’t see any 5 PSI when I bought them from the box at HD, so I didn’t know till now! I did stand clear though. They worked great for me, and I’ll use them again. Next time I’ll take pics.Ā 

    #127093

    Gene Fuller
    Participant
    Vessel Name: Yorkshire Rose
    Engines: QSB5.9 380
    Location: Punta Gorda, Florida
    Country: USA

    Why?

    Perhaps because they are listed for 5 psi max and are clearly labeled “Stand Clear”.

    I have tried various low-pressure plumbing gadgets. They either blew off or looked pretty scary when they bulged.

    #127072

    chrism6784
    Participant

    Actually that seems a lot easier and cheaper. Almost like why didnā€™t anyone think of it sooner? I like have those actually and canā€™t believe I didnā€™t think to use them

    #127015

    Matt Lyman
    Participant

    It didn’t for me. The ends blew off.Ā  What did work REALLY well, was to put these on the raw water intake and outtake holes on the housing caps:

    https://www.homedepot.com/p/Oatey-Gripper-3-in-Plastic-Mechanical-Test-Plug-33402/100168770

    I then used a hand pump with a pressure gauge and attached it to one of the zinc plugs and pumped it up to 25 PSI for an hour.Ā 

    This was all done once assembled of course, but what was nice was I could keep the housing in place, which is a real pain to remove on a QSC.Ā 

    Sorry, I don’t have any pics.Ā 

    #127009

    chrism6784
    Participant

    So did this system work??? Iā€™m going to try building this tomorrow just curious if anyone found out if it worked

    #81997

    firehoser75
    Participant
    Engines: Cummins 6BTA M3-330 HP
    Location: Nanaimo, BC
    Country: Canada

    And add a potentially leaking test rig apparatus to the mixā€¦

    So true. When I was assembling my test unit for the fully assembled aftercooler, it took quite a few tries for me to get the test equipment to seal. The aftercooler was not leaking. Submerging the entire aftercooler while under air pressure made finding the leak sources easier. Thanks for that advice Rob!
    I did not test the core separately, but next time I will.
    Tom

    #81996

    Rob Schepis
    Forum Moderator
    Vessel Name: Tenacious
    Engines: 6BTA 5.9 330's - "Seaboard Style"
    Location: Long Island, NY
    Country: USA

    And add a potentially leaking test rig apparatus to the mix…

    #81995

    Tony Athens
    Moderator
    Vessel Name: Local Banks
    Engines: QSB 6.7 550 HP
    Location: Oxnard, CA
    Country: USA

    The point Rob makes is right on .. But without testing the core separate, you really are not sure what is leaking–the core or the o-rings.

    #81988

    Rob Schepis
    Forum Moderator
    Vessel Name: Tenacious
    Engines: 6BTA 5.9 330's - "Seaboard Style"
    Location: Long Island, NY
    Country: USA

    and our track record on this is 100% on an easy 1000 ++ aftercooler services. over the past 28+ years.

    There in lies the difference … average boater is going to do 1 (or 2) aftercooler services every 3 -5 years. Although that track record proves the assembled unit to be reliable if all is right I do think that the DIY boater should not skip the assembled unit pressure test. Too easy to do and takes out the possibility of an o-ring issue, corroded sealing surface, etc….

    #81967

    Tony Athens
    Moderator
    Vessel Name: Local Banks
    Engines: QSB 6.7 550 HP
    Location: Oxnard, CA
    Country: USA

    Core testing by itself is by far and away the most important part of aftercooler servicing, if something with the core is suspect…………

    We just about never test the assembled unit as if you know what you are doing on the final assembly side, understand what to look for on the housing sealing surfaces ( and service them as needed) , IMO it is not necessary, and our track record on this is 100% on an easy 1000 ++ aftercooler services. over the past 28+ years.

    Plenty of pics on this site as to what matters on the o-ring sealing surfaces..

    Tony

    #81942

    Stephen Oliver
    Participant
    Vessel Name: Ascella
    Engines: 2x Cummins 330hp Diamond
    Location: Perth, Australia
    Country: Australia

    Seems like twice the work to me, but, if the assembly leaks and youā€™ve already tested the core itself is good then you know itā€™s the assembly, so it could pay offā€¦ The assembly is simple enough so if there is a leak itā€™s usually the core or the pressure rig itself.

    Unless like me Rob, you have a porous housing that leaks… Mine was dumping quite a bit of pressure and it wasnt very obvious as it was porosity right through but masked by the paint. Once found I ground it out and used in weld on Tony’s instruction. Obviously a rare case but at least I would have had confidence in my core if tested this way.. there are a dozen ways to approach this though and all are good..?

    Steve

    #81509

    Rob Schepis
    Forum Moderator
    Vessel Name: Tenacious
    Engines: 6BTA 5.9 330's - "Seaboard Style"
    Location: Long Island, NY
    Country: USA

    Seems like twice the work to me, but, if the assembly leaks and you’ve already tested the core itself is good then you know it’s the assembly, so it could pay off… The assembly is simple enough so if there is a leak it’s usually the core or the pressure rig itself.

    #81332

    worldcatlemon
    Participant
    Vessel Name: Adjusted Priorities
    Engines: QSB 425 Cummins
    Location: Pacific Northwest
    Country: United States

    Still working out the kinks in my pressure tester….Lol

    I will test the entire unit once I know the core doesn’t leak. By testing the core before installation if it has any pinholes i won’t waste grease and have to clean grease up. All my other sealing surfaces are smooth and new orings, so doubtful it will leak.

    #81307

    Fireisland1
    Participant
    Vessel Name: Riverwind
    Engines: cummins QSB 380
    Location: long island n.y.
    Country: usa

    I like that a lot but it only tests the core. What about the assembly?

    #81254

    firehoser75
    Participant
    Engines: Cummins 6BTA M3-330 HP
    Location: Nanaimo, BC
    Country: Canada

    Possibly send (to his email address) Tony the article in a “Word” format so it can be edited as needed (for formatting etc.)?

    #81235

    worldcatlemon
    Participant
    Vessel Name: Adjusted Priorities
    Engines: QSB 425 Cummins
    Location: Pacific Northwest
    Country: United States

    Tony, I enjoy working on stuff and would write an article. I’m just not real sure how to do it in the format you mentioned.

    #81209

    Tony Athens
    Moderator
    Vessel Name: Local Banks
    Engines: QSB 6.7 550 HP
    Location: Oxnard, CA
    Country: USA

    Aftercooler core pressure tester tool

    Consider putting this all together as a “How to Project” in a article form and Ill share your ingenuity in the my a article section..

    Stuff like this goes a long ways in this community and is very applicable to other engines besides Cummins.

    It won’t make you famous should you decide to run for president some day, but you will end up with a few extra Seaboard T-shirts..

    Tony

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