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    Raymond Slingerland
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    Vessel Name: 1986 Trojan International 10 meter express
    Engines: 300 hpCummins 5bta
    Location: Milton, Florida
    Country: USA

    Boat with the 300 hp 6btas. Going to wide open throttle port moves up to 2700 max and the starboard lags behind it and only reaches about 2600. Clean bottom, but boat not used much over the last year. What comes to mind are over propped, reduced fuel supply from dirty filters, or as the man demonstrating the boat suggests, starboard engine after cooler needs cleaning. The man is in business as a diesel mechanic and has taken care of the boat for the owner. He rules out the props since he has seen better performance in the past. Filters not likely, not many hours on them, but what he sees suggests the after cooler. The starboard engine lags behind the port engine coming up to rpm and eventually tops out 100 to 150 rpm below. This performance is holding down the port engine such that it canā€™t reach a higher rpm. Also on the starboard engine block there is a light oil film maybe from a head gasket leak. Donā€™t know if two are connected but would like to start with the mechanicā€™s theory, clean the after cooler. What do you think?? Thanks

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  • #38171

    Tony Athens
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    Vessel Name: Local Banks
    Engines: QSB 6.7 550 HP
    Location: Oxnard, CA
    Country: USA

    Don’t procrastinate? DO IT!
    It’s all here :

    Cummins Marine Aftercooler Maintenance

    Tony

    #38160

    Raymond Slingerland
    Participant
    Vessel Name: 1986 Trojan International 10 meter express
    Engines: 300 hpCummins 5bta
    Location: Milton, Florida
    Country: USA

    The after cooler

    Good to know that it is serviceable. Thanks

    #38138

    Tony Athens
    Moderator
    Vessel Name: Local Banks
    Engines: QSB 6.7 550 HP
    Location: Oxnard, CA
    Country: USA

    You have an up-graded aftercooler that was designed to be serviceable.

    Tony

    #38127

    Raymond Slingerland
    Participant
    Vessel Name: 1986 Trojan International 10 meter express
    Engines: 300 hpCummins 5bta
    Location: Milton, Florida
    Country: USA

    after cooler?

    Here are a couple from the survey. I admit I don’t know what the aftercooler looks like on the Cummins. The drawing posted earlier didn’t print out for me.
    These are jpg so not the best but??? If they aren’t the serviceable after coolers than the owner’s mechanic is misleading us, since he indicates he has serviced them in the past and told us how to do it—but maybe that was all on an engine that could be serviced. If they haven’t been upgraded give me a ball park dollar number to do that? Thanks

    #38124

    Raymond Slingerland
    Participant
    Vessel Name: 1986 Trojan International 10 meter express
    Engines: 300 hpCummins 5bta
    Location: Milton, Florida
    Country: USA

    aftercooler pic

    Can you tell from this picture if after cooler has been upgraded?

    #38097

    Rob Schepis
    Forum Moderator
    Vessel Name: Tenacious
    Engines: 6BTA 5.9 330's - "Seaboard Style"
    Location: Long Island, NY
    Country: USA

    See attached —- Per your SN you do have the welded aftercoolers …. Maybe they have since been upgraded to the serviceable aftercoolers? No pics available?

    #38088

    Raymond Slingerland
    Participant
    Vessel Name: 1986 Trojan International 10 meter express
    Engines: 300 hpCummins 5bta
    Location: Milton, Florida
    Country: USA

    engine numbers

    CPL 0970, SN 44547345.
    Understand they are early 90s engines. Some had non serviceable after coolers I am told. But since the mechanic indicated he had service them before I assume either these have been changed or were not the non servicable ones.

    #38087

    Raymond Slingerland
    Participant
    Vessel Name: 1986 Trojan International 10 meter express
    Engines: 300 hpCummins 5bta
    Location: Milton, Florida
    Country: USA

    additional low power comment

    Great article that was referenced. Owner is going to have his mechanic check it out. His mechanic thinks it is dirty aftercooler since he has worked the boat before and knows the existing configuration can do better.

    Reference the props–Since props move the boat I would like to have the best prop fit, and I understand the biggest diameter should come first and than pitch to make the desired rpms. If that is correct, the tips on the existing 3 bladed props on the boat are at least 4 inches from the hull. It is my understanding that could probably go up to within two inches of the hull. At haulout could not see any numbers on the props, so probably covered by the nut on the end. Owner doesn’t know prop size or pitch, just that they have worked for years.

    #38084

    Tony Athens
    Moderator
    Vessel Name: Local Banks
    Engines: QSB 6.7 550 HP
    Location: Oxnard, CA
    Country: USA

    Post a serial number as there are various 6BTA 300’s.

    Tony

    #38083

    Raymond Slingerland
    Participant
    Vessel Name: 1986 Trojan International 10 meter express
    Engines: 300 hpCummins 5bta
    Location: Milton, Florida
    Country: USA

    smoke?

    Very little, some what grey. Not steam.

    #38071

    Rob Schepis
    Forum Moderator
    Vessel Name: Tenacious
    Engines: 6BTA 5.9 330's - "Seaboard Style"
    Location: Long Island, NY
    Country: USA

    You don’t mention “smoke” or “no smoke”. Sure it “could” be a fouled aftercooler but, until each and every item is verified, it could be several other issues as all described here: https://www.sbmar.com/articles/understanding-low-power-troubleshooting/

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